Don't, it'll be almost impossible to find the right one ever again :oQuote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
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Don't, it'll be almost impossible to find the right one ever again :oQuote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
its been 2 years since ive started this thread. and yet i still dont own an S.
sad times.
Did mum say no?Quote:
Originally Posted by pheestyle
had to get something more practical for work as live 100kms away. got a comfortable cl9 instead
I don't understand on why people say s2k is uncomfortable... It's pretty nice to sit in long distance lolQuote:
Originally Posted by pheestyle
This of course depends on the amount of mods the particular car has, but a stock S yes it is not bad at all to sit in for long distances.Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
The only reason my S is 'uncomfortable' is because the exhaust is too loud lol other than that I have no qualms
Sorry to say Torrell.
But offer wouldn't reach anywhere your asking price. 30k is what I value the car at max.
My reasoning, Its an AP1, interstate buyer, Shes red, Depreciation value as she will be my daily.
Mate if my DC5 is sold before yours does, I would be inclined to offer more. Till that day, shall we speak again.
I wouldn't be able to bear putting all that mileage onto an S though lol. I reckon a cheap small car for a daily driver just to get to work and back if my budget's low, and have the S as a weekender.
imho, the s2k is one of the most uncomfortable cars i've ever driven. i'm 6ft. i prefer the following cars which i also regularly drive:Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
1982 commodore
e46 3 series
dc2r (most comfortable car after the rx7 rs)
rx7 rs
rx7 rz (no where near as comfortable as the rs)
x5
anything else i get to drive :p. i hate the s2k seats and if i could afford it would have sr4's from a dc5r in it in a heartbeat. love absolutely everything else about the car though...except for the lack of a glove box. which is just stupid.
I prefer the S2k seats over the DC5r's.
IMO, ea to their own.
dun liek leather s2k seats too sticky and not comfy
but sr3 recaro suede material more comfy
im over 6ft, but im pretty comfortable in my car, the only ppl that have complained to me about it being uncomfortable have been the tyre guy and a mechanic. but they were both fat.
my seats arent sticky, they are actually kinda soft, other s2k owners have said that mine are quite soft compared to their own.
not as soft as an SR3, which is a nice seat i had in my EG but an sr just doesnt suit the interior.
I didn't like S2K for long distances mainy because 3500rpm at speed limit, stuff all sound deadening (hate hearing everything, all the time with roof up) and no cruise control. Did love the seats though.
Also, someone should buy this!
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=0&sdmvc=1
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Originally Posted by amant02
did you offer me 30k? :/ am i missing something?
btw, just to add to convo, i hate driving with the roof down, but i dont do that so often :/
and freeway driving with the roof down, standard muffler, little bit of sun, god its heavenly
Driving a few of my friends cars I didn't even want to get out. Loud exhausts too lolQuote:
Originally Posted by black8thgen
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Originally Posted by pure_na
makes this horrible hissing sound at idle h8h8h8h8
so much wind noise on the canvas roof too, it gets old fast
constant sound just starts to make ur ears bleed
but would i trade it in..?
nah
Haha I was like that at first too... but trust me after a year of driving with some highway involved (80-90km/h at 3-4k RPM = DRONE) your ears start to bleed. I loved every bit of the noise up until recently... Hence hunting for a quieter exhaust :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
But just as Curtis says... I would NOT trade it in despite all that
Tbh curt yours was the most best one out of them all, however the tune was annoyingQuote:
Originally Posted by curtis265
Haha, my prelude is pretty loud too, had for 5 years. I reckon the s2k would be fine in this case, as well as getting a hard top anyway!Quote:
Originally Posted by black8thgen
hard top is annoying, if u go over uneven ground it shakes and rattles over your head.Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
which one have you got? i considered getting the original Honda hardtop but ended up selling :/
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Originally Posted by Baby Face
I definitely think I will test drive one with a hard top (there's one for sale with hardtop from Honda) so will see hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Torell
i test drove a Blue AP1 with an OEM Hardtop.
do tellQuote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
How do you know that it will always do that? What if it was just improperly fitted
hey guys, I know this car has been for sale for a long time, has anyone actually inspected it in person? cheers
http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...D-2577784&Cr=2
maybe chassis was dodgy ex accident carQuote:
Originally Posted by curtis265
floppin around like a flounder
It says it has been written off before, ap2 v2 wheels on a ap2 v1 aswell,Quote:
Originally Posted by totti
not sure, has been up for a while
JDM/personal import s2000 with factory sat nav
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...?Cr=37&sdmvc=1
Looks a tad bit ricey to me.. Do the sat nav's work in Australia?Quote:
Originally Posted by ITEAZR
A bit pricey just to get a JDM model, whats the benefit? extra 10hp on JDM fuel?
sat nav is pretty cool, Clean bumper since theres no headlight washers, and the button inside has a coin holder instead neat. i want one.
Wouldn't bother. Adm over jdm no questionQuote:
Originally Posted by ITEAZR
Unless he bought it at the auction, and the damage must of been over it's market cost... Yh nhQuote:
Originally Posted by totti
wait, $29k for a written off car?
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...?Cr=50&sdmvc=1 this car any good? has anyone checked it out?
The sat nav fittament looks a bit off
It's been there for a long while now mate, haven't checked it out myself though.Quote:
Originally Posted by victtorz
Those JDM seats look so much better than ADM ones
Exy as fuk for the kmsQuote:
Originally Posted by victtorz
do you really think so?Quote:
Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ
2001 white s2000 in vic $16,500 neg!
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/melbo...001/1044487651
^ gone!
not original white was silverstone hence silver honda badgesQuote:
Originally Posted by ITEAZR
gearbox crunches at high rpm
been in an accident
but came with rwc though
yeh pearl white is not an original colour.
Pretty pricey for something with such high km's and yet with an accident history there are other cheaper options out there, I wonder what was the buyer thinking hmmm...
someone buy this!
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=2&sdmvc=1
Inb4 people whinge and whine that its too expensive
and when its cheap its not good enough...Quote:
Originally Posted by lolmclol
Right on the spot! (-;Quote:
Originally Posted by ITEAZR
It's too ex... I mean it's out of my budget :pQuote:
Originally Posted by charlie15
compared to the price of the Red AP1 with 35k km's what do you guys reckon? extra 20,000kms buts its an ap2
opinions?
That red ap1 has no rear glass window on the soft top so that's something to consider. It'll cost approx $600 shipped from ebay and probably $700 in labour to get it fixed up properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
Other than that, if you're keeping it stock, ap1's are known to be more aggressive and ap2's more user friendly (someone can correct me on this).
If you're going to swap out suspension, have your own geometry settings etc. etc. Just go for the cheaper one, as long as you schedule a proper pre-purchase check (engine comps, chassis etc.).
Or just pick the colour you prefer :)
Edit: Also if you care for aesthetics, AP2 has got speakers mounted on the door, wider tires on stock wheels etc. performance wise, nothing much since we don't get the F22C in Australia from my knowledge. There's a thread here somewhere that gives you a rundown on the differences.
AP2 is quicker being easier to drive, the AP1 you can never really be fully at ease, it keeps u on edge sort of. depends though, the suspension isnt perfect anyway, so coilovers to get it how u want. but AP2 doesnt had the Bump steer issue as the rear suspension arm geometry is sorted, this could be done to an AP1 by subframe swap or Bump steer kit (though these have been known to fail causing complete loss of control)
But if you set up the geometry properly with after market suspension the bump steer shouldn't be that much of a problem with responsible and smooth driving. Not forgetting that the rear suspension toes in under load and by changing the distribution suddenly causes the toe to change. In my opinion the fun of the AP1 is that it always keeps you on the edge and after getting used to it with lots of seat time. It's tons of fun :) - feedback from friends who've tracked the S2000 the ap1 is apparently more "fun" to drive lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
But to each his own.
Lol no way you'd take that ap1 over the ap2. Sorry but you'd be an idiot
But if it's cheaper?Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie15
In respect to the NFR AP1 and SSM AP2, the price difference is minimal. It's an extra 2.5k for the 2006 model which is a whole lot rarer and better, both aesthetically and mechanically.Quote:
Originally Posted by arcenite
If we're talking about an AP1 which is 20k vs an AP2 which is 35k then obviously you will purchase the car which is within your budget, as I did.
I've owned 3 s2000s now. Finally bought myself an AP2 when I could afford one.
Ap2 for sure, just waiting for a nice yellow or white one to pop up...
You've been looking for ages!! White and yellow will be rare.Quote:
Originally Posted by civ_sik
My heart will forever be burning for a S2k.
^Did you sell yours?
If I had one, my heart wouldn't be burning. noimsayin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasemas
Oh wait nevermind
Sorry got you confused with another user lol
being on the edge is not the best thing, the AP2 will be fast because around the track understeer bias is faster than oversteer. according to MCM, also being predictable makes it easier to push it.
saying an ap1 is better is like taking a flaw and trying to spin it around with clever words, at the end it aint as good but an ap1 is about as good as most will get.
Spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
It'd be interesting to know exactly how different the ap1 is to the 04,05 so called ap2 when pushed to the limit.
No doubt the 06+ can be pushed harder due to the VSA addition
surely i dont need to point out the the 50/50 weight distribution which makes more of a difference than the VSA when taken to the limit. The suspension setup is set such as that driving in the upper limits the torque of the engine causes the suspension and weight to flatten out to that 50/50 point. i dont know how VSA could help from that point. but im a noob so i could be very very wrong
http://page14.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...ion/s375194892
Only 3.2k AUD current bid on this beauty. End 5th May.
There is a video on YouTube comparing ap1, ap2 and modded ap1. Ap2 beats ap1 by a decent margin, but that also includes wider wheels and better tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by charlie15
Where on earth did you get that idea? Nothing could be further from the truth. I presume you are actually talking about oversteer, & not complete rear end breakaway. That is a different horse of another colour, but there are still ways of handling it better than the thing that wants to run out of road at the front.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
With understeer all you can do is wait for the thing to grip. Yes you can provoke oversteer in a natural understeerer, provided you do it as you turn in, but you will then have a viscous thing wanting to bite you.
With oversteer you can control the amount & range of the oversteer, & in fact use it to enable early throttle application, & fast exits.
I raced a lot of cars, & spent quite some time eradicating understeer from any of them that suffered from it, in order to reduce lap times.
What mcm was saying is that a car that understeers at the limit before oversteer is much easier to handle and faster for most drivers. A small amount of understeer can be lived with and doesn't slow the car much.
Those that really know how to drive hate understeer though. I also much prefer eliminating any understeer from my car.
i think for sure over steer is better than understeer when it comes on controllably but the S2000 doesnt really have that, its more just twitchy and floaty, on stock suspension. and the AP2 which has revised toe arm geometry for the rear also has better spring rates and handling bias with stiffer front springs and softer rear springs making the car less twitchy, and more confidence inspiring.
Also the AP2 that beats the modded AP1 did that AP2 have the 2.2L?
Torell is in trouble lol
Damn. That's the only time an AP1 is worth 30k++
/hides
Yup. Reason why I put my car on ozhonda too. Need a sale quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by EP3TYPER
yeh that s2k has very low kms. no pictures of the seat bolsters OR engine bay, and that alone says alot so looking foward to some coming up.
Blues a decent color too!
If its not tracked, and has been serviced every 6 months, its probably a good car! the guy owns a tyre shop there too, so should have some decent tyres too :)
Has anyone inspected this?
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d.../?Cr=1&sdmvc=1
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Originally Posted by Torell
i tracke once is my car no good now?
Sorry, that was a bit rude of me ^^^ I probably couldnt have worded that any worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baby Face
i mean to say if its not a car used as a track car its whole life, then it may be in worthwhile condition. any chance i can just scratch that and pretend like i didnt say anything :P
nah i know where ur coming from, it would be suspicious for the next bloke i guess, but its my car and i know i didnt push it out there. just look at the driver if he has a rats tail steer clear