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Yeah but then again that's the same with professional car audio installs, just paying to get it right and done properly. I reckon i can get it down quite abit as im doing everything with them. When they quoted me 900ish yeh at the time im was thinking no, but if its around the 700 mark i most likely will do it.
so the 900 is just labour charge or include the material?
Here're some pics of my custom (home) made tweeter holders:
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Read alot of tutorials before attempting to do this being my first fibre glassing "project", but all turned well! The idea came from a post by DMX a while back, so thanks to DMX!
So in brief, steps involved are pretty simple: I took out the original plastic panel, wrapped it with cling wrap and two layers of foil paper then build fibre glass on it. This allowed me to make a duplicate of the original part (i.e I can keep the original panel and put it back on if things go wrong). Next step is to create the MDF ring and fix its position onto the fibre glass duplicate panel, then layer the fibre glass on it. Finally just sand it and put carpet on it using contact adhersive. Comments welcomed!
i like it man.. the idea is really good... the ones im making are simmilar but they have a 4" mid range and two tweeties..
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Originally Posted by sKy.xD
Thats very true.. i have had alot of experinace around audio and making cars nice and loud. just remember.. if there are gaps between the pieces or dynamat.. it wont work.. you will have wasted time and money.. if nessesary.. overlap the pieces. and keep the peices in as big a sections as u can. less joins the better.
O and on a side note... my civic is up to 146.9 db :) gettin louder every time.
If anyone wants any box designs that hit hard in the FDs.. let me know :)
Building sth like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by amurray
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...15-08_0853.jpg
The pic is taken from this site: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/i-c-e...ll-thread.html
o wad...IMHO...it looks ugly...it may sound good but dam...looks like frankenstine
If you check out the guy's whole installation (the above link) eventually he will put a cover over the speakers
wow.. what speaker is that? scans?
QUOTE=ktvin09;2009317]Building sth like this?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...15-08_0853.jpg
The pic is taken from this site: http://www.8thcivic.com/forums/i-c-e...ll-thread.html[/QUOTE]
sort of but no really lol... ill post up some pics.
Hi guys,
Do you know if the tweeters below will fit into my front stock location? tweeter location i believe its right in the corner of the windscreen. I remember reading thats not ideal, however i jsut want a stock look, don't want too much changes.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-INFINITY-...1%7C240%3A1318
Also, I want to use the stock HU for amp, speakers.
Do i need an RCA cable? and what brand/ price range you recommend?
Amp wise, if I buy those speakers there and buy something similar in term of RMS, do i need a stronger amp?
for example if i choose clarion brand from lifestyle, do i need to get the apx4361 or apx4241 is sufficient power
http://www.lifestylestore.com.au/pro...el-Amplifiers/
Btw JaCe, lifestyle quoted me around $1500 for 4 Channel Amp (i think he quoted the RF p4004 amp, 2 sets of MBQ speakers (front & rears) + installation, and that's way too much i reckon, with the stock HU, its not worth it IMO
u will need to use a Line level converter ... i suggest stinger rca's.
Just wondering does anyone know where to get a dash kit for the Type R?
Type-R ? FD2R, contact DMX, 185. FN ???Quote:
Originally Posted by TGS79
just an update.. FINALY. 150.2 db at last nights sound off... BUT.. i blew a sub lol... so that kinda sucks
im looking to get some splits for my car...just need some help deciding which ones...is it the higher the watts the better? or what? coz some are only 150W where as there are some that are 300+ watts...
Hey guys, I have an 06 Civic and I'm thinking of replacing the stock head unit. If I want to run a usb cable from the back of the hu, where is the best place to run it to? Not sure I can get it in the glovebox. Or do I need to use connectors at the front?
Hi Guys just wondering how hard is it to access the factory tweeter location?
there's no factory tweeter on FD...Quote:
Originally Posted by TGS79
I have an Aftermarket 2Din unit with usb cable running from the back of the HU. With mine, I routed the cable to the glovebox. Hope that helps..Quote:
Originally Posted by bonestorm
the location is empty, but its hard lolQuote:
Originally Posted by TGS79
Thanks for the heads up Cracker.
i ran my ipod cable from my HU down under the dash through to the center console. i found a lot of room to run it that way. providing you cable is long enough. mine was 5ft :PQuote:
Originally Posted by bonestorm
Ok thanks for the feedback guys.
there is a gap between the glove box and the headunit. plenty of space to run it through.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonestorm
Cool. One other thing, are there any suggestions on where to pick up a double din fascia? JB were quoting $200 for one.
hey guys
what is stock speakers in the front and rear of the FD1.
Can you guys confirm if its 6" in the front and 6.5" in the rear
Looking at upgrading the stock speakers and the headunit.
Also, whats ur experience with the type s/type s alpine range install on the FD? Fitments without any adjustments.
Thanks
Ask JB where the double din was made from. A few months ago a Jap one was around 180 and the thai one was either 150-160.Quote:
Originally Posted by bonestorm
Prices might have changed as it was last year, and i know audio places sell them for even more then 200, so its probably a good price. Saves trying to import yourself.
I can confirm the fronts will fit 6.5" and most probably the rears. I currently have 6.5" and i remember another member stating he had some in the rears also.Quote:
Originally Posted by BC8
I had mine installed, so most probably spacers were used but they don't need much adjustments or any screwing into the car body.
Im guessing your not going to amp the speakers? Type S should be fine then as anything above type R would be a waste if your not amping, but don't expect alot of improvements over the stock speakers.
I'm considering changing the front speakers, so you rkn that there isn't much difference between the Type S and stock speakers?Quote:
Originally Posted by sKy.xD
There would be a difference but probably not that noticeable. Headunit amp just doesn't give enough power to hear a big difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by FDBenni
There are even cases where the actual speakers sound worse then stock because of that. I forgot who but someone here has type s speakers, not sure which member but he has a fd1 also. Hopefully he might have a better answer for you.
Im going all the way manQuote:
Originally Posted by sKy.xD
Amp the speakers and a small subs as my rear boot is used often. Most likely going Type R's. I mean, if your replacing speakers over stock, having an amp is important for better improvements. I use to use jaycar kevlar, precision range for my splits, rears, amp and sub and it went hard for the value.
Thanks for the confirmation, will need to check if spacers are needed.
is there is DIY to these double din fascia's?..a friend of mine is looking to get a double din for his FD.
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Originally Posted by sKy.xD
It is pretty easyQuote:
Originally Posted by NightRyder
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpos...46&postcount=2
shows you how to remove the dash + other things.
all you have to do is just unscrew the vent and a/c things and attached it back onto the d-din and add your own player.
Ah sorry you never mention amping so I only assumed lol whoops. Type R sub goes alright. I was going to have type R subs but then went on to better thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by BC8
I reckon if possible try going for the type R speakers as well ... The sub bass might drown out the speakers. Probably least go have a listen and compare :p
thanks for that liquid23. I sent this to my mate to see but he is now asking if there is another DIY which shows you exactly how to remove the radio from the air con unit considering they made the radio and air con appear to be in one whole panel?..How would you split it?
Thanks :)
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Originally Posted by liquid23
Just got from DMX 3 weeks ago, $195 for genuine Honda japan made, include postage and 2 brackets :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by sKy.xD
Pm him, he might still have some left
the a/c unit should be held on by 4 screws.Quote:
Originally Posted by NightRyder
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/4851/dash1.jpg
vent on the side
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1329/dashm.jpg
screw the a/c unit and vent back onto the double din fascia and then install a double din player or single din with the brackets that come with the 2din.
here is a link to show 2din and single din
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84708
ne1 installed carputer? thinkin of doin it to my fd, just not sure which lcd screen to go for
currently running
headunit: alpine iva-w502ev
subwoofer: 2 x alpine sbr-s122v
monoblock: jl audio 1000/1
cap: rockford fosgate rfc1d
wires: rockford fosgate rfk4
waiting to get
front: alpine spx-17pro
rear: alpine spx17pro
amp: alpine pdx-4.150
wires: rockford fosgate rfk4d
and sound deading! rear shelf rattles like a bitch
Please tell me your running a cap because you think its pretty :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Stig
I definitely also need sound deadening for the rear shelf. It rattles just where the brake light on the shelf.
I was told just to remove the rear parcel shelf and put foam under. Though i will still be obviously doing front doors and also boot.
Running:
headunit: Alpine 9887
front: Focal 165KRX2
rear: none (no bloody need!)
subwoofer: 2 x Rockford Fosgate T1 12"
monoblock: Rockford Fosgate T15001bd
4 channel:Audison lrx 4.1k
Battery: Optima Yellow Top D51R
wiring: Stinger Pro 0awg
sound deadening: Dynamat Xtreme (coming soon)
i use a 1F cap 4 my setup too. i need it otherwise it wont mask my dimming lights...everylight...but it also looks pretty :) and yeah i got dynamat xtreme sound deadening...it sounds SO much better!!!! makes its soudn cleaner.
Bandaid to the real problem! Go get a better battery and upgrade your big 3!
What areas did you dynamat? I definitely need some as my door and rear shelf rattles like crazy! I'm even considering doing my whole boot as well.
yeah big 3 battery and alternator would be an ultimate solution, thats why i said it masked the problem. but i did a trunk kit so yeah pretty much all around the boot, not including the plastic areas. it pretty much took care of most of the rattle!...then i put sum blue tack behind the number plate because i noticed it rattled too, thats what you get when you play with alpine x types
sound deading the rear shelf, two front doors and boot lid is a must for me! I HATE THAT RATTLING!! my mate with a impreza rs, we installed his sub and man, his car does not rattle... shows you how well civics are built...
my front left door rattles with the stock sound system lol..... =.=
i think everyones left door rattles with a stock system lol
lol, get some sound deadening for a stock system.
sorry if this has been covered before but can someone please let me know:
what size are the speakers F+R? - 6/6.5" Splits/co-ax up front?
what size rear speakers into shelf? - ? 6x9's for a bit of extra bass as i dunno if i wanna run a sub or not?
4ch amp to run all the speakers?
what size speaker wire would be suitable for a half-decent system?
and lastly, what brands should i be looking at?
I think i've covered everything right? - i also need to look into getting a dvd hu as i already have a screen, so altogether i need:
dvd HU (already have screen)
double-din fascia kit
speaker wire
tweeters
front splits
rear speakers
4ch amp?
amirite? - thanks in advancce for any help!
but mine didnt use to before.. retarded =/, maybe i just didnt notice it before lol.
hmm im so interested in getting a full custom sound system done but the cost is toooo tooo much =[
First thing is you must come up with a budget and also if your going to diy or get it professionally installed.Quote:
Originally Posted by .k.
Speaker sizes are 6.5" pretty sure both front and back. You can still put 6x9's in rear shelf i think but you have to play around, dunno about cutting (unsure on this).
I reckon you should just run a sub. If you have ever had a proper sub in a car you know that you 6x9's will never satisfy.
If you don't have enough for your budget just get some decent front splits and a sub all powered by a 4 channel amp. That's what most car audio places would suggest in terms of smaller budget.
Hey stig have you ever sound deadened a car? Sounds like you have. Since we both from Melbourne maybe we should get together and sound deaden them at the same time.
Ive never done it before so would be good to learn from someone who has :P. Beats paying an installer $800 for whole car i got quoted :O
Thanks for ya help mate.. not a big budget on car stereo - probably around the 1k mark.. would that be enough for a decent amp+splits+tweeters+HU?
never really been big stereo fan lol, my last car was a starlet gt all it had were 2 seats and a whole lotta rattle lols
nah i have never sound deadened a car LOL i was just planning to do it myself, isnt that hard, just grab some dynamat off one of the ebay stores for around $250, i assume we'll need around 2 sets so $500 all up.Quote:
Originally Posted by sKy.xD
then just pull off the front door, slap it on the whole door on both sides, put it back. same thing with the boot lid and the rear shelf i have to figure out, but i think it shouldnt be that hard, just time consuming
was planning to do it once i get all the speakers so i could do the whole thing at once :)
lookup diy under user '53XXX' he has a red eg which shows u how he sound-deadened his car.
If you weren't adding a sub then probably would be enough. I would have a look at mobile electronics and check out beginners forum and there are heaps of threads with budget systems which you may help.Quote:
Originally Posted by .k.
When you planning on getting speakers? It is pretty easy but there are small things you just gotta know such as some parts you dont meant to dynamat and also opening apart doors certain ways to do it.
I don't think you will need 2 bulk kits unless you were doing all around the boot and multiple layers. In a bulk kit there are 9 large sheets. Prob need a bulk and possibly at most trunk as well.
well the dollar is going up so im pretty happy, maybe after i get my tax return back or something which gives me some money to spend, only a student yo :(
ill prob end up buying just one bulk and see how much that gives me and if i need any more ill get more, cant wait to get rid of this rattling though, can only max my volume at like 10 before it starts rattling
Although there are no tweeters in the factory position does anyone know how hard it would be to run speaker wire up there for installing aftermarket tweeters?
i've heard that job is veryvery hard lol. don't know anything about how its done though.Quote:
Originally Posted by TGS79
.. i was told that there were tweeters in my dash LOL..
or am i imagining it.. up in the corners..
There isn't any. Think everywhere else in the world they got tweeters but since our civics are Thailand made they didn't put any in.
yeah thats where tweeters are, u can see the mesh thingy haha, but i think its empty LOL
theyre empty lads. apparantly installing in those spots are also uber hard
One of my mates has his tweeters there so I'll ask how he did it. He has the tweeter sticking up out of those two areas and the mesh is gone I think.. I'll try get a picture.
Now I'm not bing lazy, I wanna learn how car audio works and I will look It up more once I finish exams. Could someone please like make a list of a decent stereo setup that can be had for about 1k?
HU - pref a pioneer dvd, so the harness is easier to hookup to my pioneer screen (?)
Front splits - 6/6.5"?
Tweeters? Or dw cos of my budget?
Amp - 4ch?
Speaker wire?
Can my budget allow for rear speakers or sub?
Thanks a bunch!
Also, where can I go to have a look and see what products are "good"? Like which brands have a good reputation for quality + performance?
depending on the standard of product you want to buy, can tell u if u can get the sub brah
I don't necessarily want a sub, even though I listen to a fair bit of techno/hardstyl etc I want a system that's able to deliver clear sound (loudly =p) haha. I'd need the best of quality/price/performance.. Are there any products like Hu's, speakers, amps etc that have proven to be the best bang for buck?
That's what in after.. Bang for buck, end of the day I want to be able to listen to clear music not like the nubs who roll with the epic doof doof boot rattle lol
If you want sound quality you don't want to be getting rear speakers as they just mess up the clarity. Unless you have constant rear passengers then you would possibly want to but other then that no point.
Pro's themselves just fade the back out and either leave the stock speakers or get cheap coaxials (That's for SQ comps). Majority of the money is spent on the front splits for speakers, so if you don't have a budget over 2,000 don't even worry about rears.
300 on head unit - probably alpine or even eclipse 3200.
350 on front splits - old MB Quart discus (new name is MYSTRO) rated one of the better speakers under $500.
350 on 4 channel - If you want something really good you can get decent stuff 2nd hand. With a smaller budget that's the best you can do. Have a look on MEA website forums for 2nd hand stuff. Everything on there is good stuff.
If you really want something new then the best bang for buck is probably jaycar. For wiring look for the brand Aeropro. Very good and cheap budget wiring.
I would heavily suggest getting a sub afterwards. Have you ever had a sub in a car? Honestly i couldn't live without it. I had $1100 dollar focal splits in my car without subs for 2 weeks, and i couldn't stand it. You cant really go without a sub for bass. The boot rattle isn't so bad for the civic so don't worry.
when u guys talk about front splits... are u talking about the front door speakers?
yes speakers are called "splits".Quote:
Originally Posted by black8thgen
can get in 2-way or 3-way front splits with crossover or not.
i'm getting some utopia be XD
anyone know a good quality sub? my budget is 1.5k a sub.
i'm currently thinking of Focal 33WX2, apparently won subwoofer of the year for SQ
A bloody great sound quality sub! Just make sure you make the right enclosure for it, as if you don't it will sound fairly shit. If you prefer softer subs and SQ this is definitely the right sub.
Also you might want to have a listen to them first. We all love to achieve sound quality to an extent but don't expect a massive amount of bass, as in they won't sound very loud.
I was close to snatching one of these cheap but i still love the heart thumping bass.
whats difference between 2way and 3way? and what does crossover offer compared to just normal?
2 way is a woofer and a tweeter. 3 way adds a mid range tweeter. Each play the low, mid and high frequencies. Crossovers separate the frequencies to the separate speakers.
If im wrong someone correct me :confused:
ohh i see, so obv crossover would be more sound clarity in each range?
ah thx for clearing it up =D.
1.5 g can be spent in such a better way..
mm i wasted 2.5 grand on my old entry level system.. regretted it straight away.
not worth it at all.. im so happy i sold it for the same price a month later
i got over it so fast.
if your goign to do it make sure you have a decent amp to run it.. :thumbsup:
i'm running Audison Thesis Quattro (4channel) with Bit One processor (high level). Was thinking of getting 2 x 33WX2 subs running off Thesis Uno.
[QUOTE=.k.;2300114]One of my mates has his tweeters there so I'll ask how he did it. He has the tweeter sticking up out of those two areas and the mesh is gone I think.. I'll try get a picture.
Anymore info on this?
atm i only have a high powered sub and it is satisfying all my needs, both audio and sexually. i'd only upgrade the speakers and whatnot once i blow them, if i ever do. i really cant see why you guys want speakers so badly? i was under the impression our stockies werent that bad? someone said it was made by a subsidiary of alpine or alpine themselves.
I think most of us got that impression when first jumping into our car. Once you get into a car with a decent sound system of course then you will notice a difference.
Put our stock speakers on a board with aftermarket speakers and you will definitely notice a difference then haha. Some people are really into their audio so stock speakers will never be enough.
Also just because its made by alpine doesn't mean they will be good. Their own aftermarket speakers aren't so good either.
yeah im thinking to just get a sub and an amp? cos the stock speakers seem pretty clean and give some base. =].
Yeah that's fine. I had 2 x alpine type s subs and they were alright with the stock speakers. If you get really good subs that's when they will drown out stock speakers.
What amp and sub were you looking to buy?