**** red bull
**** vettel, lol
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**** red bull
**** vettel, lol
is it just me or do i just find the shanghai races to be so boring.
there was what. 4 safety cars? D:
wooohoo for vettel.
what time is the race tonight on channel 10
its not on channel 10........
was on ONEHD at 5 today..
i dont think it will be shown on 10HD
yeah it is
11:15pm
shown on channel 10 at 11:15pm..Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
10HD = ONEHD
ah sorry my bad, lol
i dont have an digital at my place
still running analog, i went to a mates to watch it on 1hd
yea this epic nub had to watch it at mine, and BTW button and barrichello can get fkd. HAMILTON FTW!!!
hey how many times did hamilton spin out at the race???
50
bahrain this weekend woo
lol
who is that walking with *****milton
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GreekWarrior
Adrian Sutil... apprently they're pretty 'close'..Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
hmm... i predict the brawns to win bahrain... BUT... expect redbull and toybota 2 be strong...
hopefully we'll see a race WITHOUT the safety car
fark thought that was a super model or some shitQuote:
Originally Posted by ^^v
googled it
its a fking dude!
lol, lewis is banging the pussy cat doll lead singer dude.
yep hes the toy boy..
qualifying at 11:45pm tonight.
ffs
It's starting to turn out to be a really good season this year.
No-one can predict a winner; and many upsets to come.
Although I'm an Alonso fan; I stick with him all the way; I feel it's loyal to do so.
But i do appreciate the other teams at the top; it's kind of embarrasing while RBR's using the same engine but Renault is struggling :o
Also Brawns killing it, Mclaren struggling
really good qualifying session again... Brawn's slowly losing their advantage!
best season ever so far... I can't remember the last time that so many teams had the potential to win
race starts soon woot
GO WEBBER,
bit of a challenge from back in the pack though
he still only came 11th lol
brawn again bo yeah
honda chasis wins again
Button ftw! :d
i was gonna give up on F1, ts just a fcuking soap opera.
but with the cars being so evenly matched it pretty damn good!
being for the race in Sepang, Malaysia kinda helped....gotta love the sound!!!
the best thing about this season is seeing ferrari get demolished, stupid fkheads, lol
lol @ bmw sauber .. even force india beat them hahaha
great performance from button... that first lap was crucial... hes so good under breaking.. esp in that 1st corner...
i rememba 2006 when he passed montoya twice in that corner... awsome stuff...
Spain should be interesting... all of the teams will have some sort of major upgrade... DDD
brawn is set to run new front and rear wing... and asymmetric sidepods... rumor has it that one sidepod will be fully closed off...
massa getting lapped was just embarrassing lol
DD + KERS = Interesting results.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^^v
Brawns pulling rabbits from there magic hat. I'm glad button's achieving whats his been trying to achieve for years, re-watched an old top gear eps (season 8 eps 8(should watch it guys)) and im glad his winning, didn't know who he was back then. LOL at the weber remarks.
Is F1 broadcasted on any of the TV programs in oz?
10....
also One HD (ten HD but sport) replay tomorrow in the afternoon i think 5pm (Brisbane)
watch it on one digital for awesome surround
theyre replaying it on one at 7:30pm tonight as well
It is very worth it watching on One HD. Much sharper if you have a medium sized (40") TV capable of at least 1080i
Waseem Waseem Waseem, your still a little NUB, it is a well known fact that Brawn (i.e. not honda) chose the famous mercedes engine, because i.) it was a better fit for the chassis and ii.) because they saw last years results of lewis hamilton. As for HONDA they were useless in the f1, and have been for the last 10 years, I think Jenson (CF) Button is also happy that HONDA pulled out and BRAWN took over, before BRAWN he had only ever won one race, and now has trippled that record, personally i am glad honda pulled out to save them from the disgrace they would have had to face by loosing to FORCE INDIA LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
so tell me then why Mclaren are doing shit this year?
Because they have lack of downforce problem which is well documented. Engines arent everything, esp with the no. of engine restrictions these days.
I think the most of the engines from the leading manufacturers (there arent many left!) are pretty much on par in regards to power
If you remember in the late 90's, all the leading teams were coming up with new engine revisions in every couple of races because there were no restrictions.
^exactly my point
the engines dont have much between them in the end
brawn stuck with the honda chassis because he believed it was a highly competitive setup....why he didnt just stick to Honda engine is a mystery.....could be a financial issue? maybe he could get engines cheaper from Merc, who knows...
brawn is winning because of their Honda chassis........Mclaren and others arent doing so well because they havent caught up in the aerodynamics part of the game
I dont car what car or driver wins as long as it's not cf
Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
Honda started developing this (RA109 aka BGP001) chassis about 1.5 years ago... earlier than any other team... quite a strategic move by brawn as this year there is NO on track testing what so ever... and restrictions on wind tunnel testing... so for the teams that r behind atm it'll be a some what more difficult job to catch up...
as for not using the Honda engine... Brawn simply had no say in the matter... Honda pulled out FULLY... which means no engines...
but lets say Honda did stick around.... it was no secret that Honda was down on power (60-80hp) on the top engines (merc.. Ferrari)... which is why the FIA allowed the teams which fell behind on the engine department (mainly Honda and Reanult) to claw back in power... so modifications were allowed between the end of the 08 and prior to the start of the 09 seasons (for the respective teams)...
so in theory the Honda engine would have been on par with the mercs n ferraris.... and in combining it with the current chassis (which was originally designed for the Honda engine) it would have been in the same if not better position than it is now...
and this is not taking into consideration the KERS Honda was developing... dun forget they were the FIRST team to test KERS on track back in early 08...
^ agree with ^^v...
to binny:
hondas chassis development started waaaaaay back and the brawn gp outfit is basically 90% honda developed funds.
they chose the merc engines cos they fit the chassis better than the others they could have gotten BUT ofcourse the chassis would better fit the honda engine..
Chassis design is much more of a factor in winning than engine design.. as u can see in this years races..
honda didnt really suck at the sport for 10 years + as they only acquired BAR in late 2005...
their development just got held back by this economic crisis and you can see that from teams spending considerable amounts of money before and putting their ludicrous funding on hold.. the field is narrowing between the privateers and the works outfits.. if only honda held on for a few more months... they still reap some benefits though as everyone still knows brawn gp is the former honda team.. some publicity for the brand which is what f1 basically is...
hondas previous track record in f1 is quite amazing since they totally dominated in the early 90s...
Mclaren arent doing shit, the reason why they arent doing as well as BRAWN is because 1. Honda put off all of the 2007 and 2008 season to make their 2009 chasis, and 2. they only recently put in the infamous rear diffuser 1 day before china. Since then KOV and HAM have finished pretty much top 5. Dont be so cocky with your BRAWN car because this is still pretty much the start of the 09 season. BUT and BAR = CFF (Cptn fkn FAG)Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
HEY
I came up with that captain faggot name for hamilton, dont steal it <_<
im not being cockyQuote:
Originally Posted by Binny
u cant get it in ur head that this is a honda car.....and they are doing well because of honda.......full stop
and im not saying they will be the best forever, and i didnt even mention anything about how much longer this success will last
you said that brawn are doing well because of the Merc engine, and I INSIST that that is complete bs
would you be calling them that if they were coming last in the title chase ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Binny
didn't think so.
i believe barrichello and button both deserve this.. they've been in f1 for a long time, and have dealt with a lot.
brawn have the advantage due to the fact that they started R&D a lot earlier than everyone else.
wait til next year.. when everyone else catches up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
Source: http://www.themotorreport.com.au/227...eam-principal/Quote:
Mercedes-Benz FO108W 2.4 litre V8 engines will be supplied to Brawn GP by Mercedes-Benz High Performance Engines, and will be installed into a modified Honda RA109 chassis.
Testing of the cars will commence in Barcelona from March 9-12 and continue in Jerez a few days later before the Brawn GP team heads Downunder for the opening round at Albert Park.
Keyword there is modified, unless you show proof that it is 100% untouched chassis and all they did was drop in a motor, you cannot claim it to be all honda's work.
After all, I find it hard to believe after spending millions of dollars, 2yrs of production to call it quits at the last minute if they believed they had a winning chassis...You would think they would at least try and get in a race or keep their badge if everything was 100% perfect...
Modifications were taken place to fit the Merc engine and you cant rule out any other modifications happened between March and start of GP.
even if any mods were done, they were done by the HONDA TEAM..........
The whole BRAWN TEAM = HONDA TEAM
so those mods were done by HONDA
and why is it so hard for u two ****s to give Honda a bit of credit....
all that happend between the end of last year and the start of this year was a name change and a different engine which would not have made a damn difference
At the end of the 08 season they knew that next years car was going to be 'competitive'... key word there.. 'competitive'... but i dont think they were expecting THIS much of a competitive car ... ie melbourne and sepang... they pretty much walked away with the win...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rekin
Ross brawn himself stated that he was 'suprized' the others wernt quicker... so by no means did Honda have prior knowledge to the extreme pace the car showed during the first few races... if they had known then MAYBE they would have stayed.... but frankly its all about the bottom line... which is why Honda left...
Hondas share price actually went up on the announcement on their leaving F1...
Oh and development was halted on this car as soon as word of Hondas departure came to light... hence why NO upgrades were placed on the car during the first flyaway races...the only thing changed to the car was modifying it for the merc block.... Ferrari was an option but ross decided with the merc as it maited with the chassis better... but by no means was it a perfect fit... (which is why they had rear suspension issues in China... something to do the merc block inteferring with the travel)...
Although on paper its a BRAWN GP chassis... Honda had considerable input into its development.... and theres no denying that...
I totally agree with rekin (AKA PAT ZOMBIE), waseem u fkn NOOOB if honda put their WAP (weak as piss) engine onto their chasis they wouldnt be a quarter as good as BRAWN, the HONDA engine in the f1 car was (60-70 hp) off the ferrari and merc engines, so that means every time the HONDA would have used KERS they would be pushing same power as ferrari and mclaren without,this was a major factor to HONDA being such a hopeless team for the last 10-15 years :thumbdwn:.
BRAWN doesn't = HONDA, If you read the quote without being so fkn CLOSE MINDED, you will understand that BRAWN made modifications to the chasis and not HONDA, HONDA gave them the RA109 chassis and BRAWN modified it. BRAWN doesnt = HONDA because BRAWN is a new team, ROSS BRAWN is a legend of the game, and he was not working at HONDA F1 team, they arent just wining because of their car it because ROSS BRAWN is such a 1337zor, BUTTON didn't win Bahrain because of his car, he won because of ROSS BRAWN startegy which you would know if you even watched the race. Had the RA109 chassis been fitted with the HONDA engine and no ROSS BRAWN their wouldn't be a difference HONDA wouldn't be winning. The most major modification that was done to the 2009 f1 cars was the rear diffuser, which ROSS BRAWN fitted himself, HONDA's original chassis didn't consist of the controvericial rear diffuser and it was ROSS BRAWN himself who decided to fit it onto the BRAWN mercedes car.Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
I dont mind giving HONDA a bit of credit, but i do mind when stupid retards like you give them full credit, WHAT MODS were made by HONDA? you don't know shit you have just started watching f1 and your still a NUB so stfu and watch for a few seasons before you talk shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
wow...what a hypocrite
First u quote rekin who is just as new to F1 as i am.....first stupidity, and u quoted him without even reading the article in the link he pasted.....2nd stupidity
You dont even read what any of the other members post, and I'm close minded??
Brawn was employed by Honda F1 Team in NOVEMBER of 07, when Honda had probably already made the decision to give up on development for the 08 season because of the 09 regulation changes
Honda had run into big financial problems, so they cut back completley from F1 and didnt want anything to do with F1 at all by the end of 08, so the chassis name was changed and the engine was taken out when Brawn who was ALREADY the TEAM PRINCIPAL at honda
http://www.themotorreport.com.au/227...eam-principal/
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63900
As said by ^^v
SO if Honda had remained at least the engine supplier to Brawn, Brawn had the Green light to proceed in re-development of the engineQuote:
Originally Posted by ^^v
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/ho...tion-2142.html
Honda didnt concentrate as much on the engine side of development and fell behind a few years ago, then when the engine freeze rule was implemented they couldnt do anymore and remained some 30hp or so behind the top teams
But Honda pulled out completley, so Brawn decided to INvest his own money into the team that he was managing at Honda because he believed in it.......once he bought the team off Honda, evry1 moved to the Brawn Team, there was not one change to any of the engineers, designers, pit crew, drivers....NOTHING.....SO it was essentially a HONDA TEAM under the BRAWN Name the modified the chassis to FIT THE MERC ENGINE
Had honda stayed as the engine supplier to Brawn, it left their ex-honda team(BRAWN) 3months+ to get another 30+hp out of the honda engine, So this is entirely a honda team, entirely a honda chassis, with a MERC engine that produces as much as the Honda engine could have
So u just got wrecked by som1 new to F1...get back ontop of Hamiltons ****...
Your Hopeless you know that, Ross Brawn has been working on developing and improving the chassis and didn't work on the engine because they had the mercedes, do you seriously think you can pull 60-70hp (i.e. not 30hp...)out of a honda engine without jeapordising the modifications on the chassis mainly the rear diffuser? HONDA's original chassis didn't come with the rear diffuser and ROSS BRAWN decided to put it on himself, HONDA originally went with the KERS system, that ROSS BRAWN didn't like. As for Rekin being as new to f1 as you, thats a load of horse shit, i have been talking to Pat Zombie about f1 and kubica for the last 2 years when you didn't even know where Raikennen raced for NUB. If the engines are meaningless, then why is it that you have to state the engine after the name? its because they are essentiall to a good car Hondas last engine was renouned for hardly finishing the race...Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
....Quote:
Originally Posted by Binny
what u mean 'what mods were made by honda'.... they designed the entire chassis.... like i said... there was NO developments after Honda pulled out and the start of the 09 season... the ONLY thing they did was modify (which actually hindered the performance) the gearbox and suspension to fit the merc block... thats it...
Im not dissing merc ... they prolly got the best engine on the grid... BUT u cant solely say coz of the merc engine and modifications Brawn GP made to the chassis that they're suddenly flying and that Honda F1 had negligible input into the chassis development....
F1 simply doesnt work that way... u dont just bolt on a part and ur suddenly @ the front... everything has to work as a package...
i mean if u look @ the developments comming for barcelona... they got a new front wing... new rear wing... totally different sidepods (asymetric)... n all that is roughly gona give them 0.3 seconds a lap...
bottom line is Honda had 95% involvement in the development of this chassis.... they're even bankrolling the team this year (reportedly $150million was given to brawn gp for the continuation of the season)....
What a piss weak replyQuote:
Originally Posted by Binny
You know nothing about Brawn or Honda, u just go by ur fan boy band waggoning propaganda that Hamilton fans go by
You cant get it in ur fkn head that this is still the SAME HONDA TEAM, EVERY SINGLE FKN ELEMENT OF THE TEAM IS IDENTICAL except for the engine
YES i admit, the MERC engine is BETTER, but IF Brawn was given the choice he may have stuck with the Honda engine and try to get another 30 to 60hp(not all engines are as powerful as ferrari and mclaren) and get it up to the same level as the most powerful teams
And YES it was BRAWN who made the controversial Diffuser, but BRAWN BEING the TEAM PRINCIPAL at HONDA would have made the same diffuser regardless of whether he was working for honda or for himself
"Honda said Brawn will have full responsibility for designing, manufacturing, and engineering the team's car."
And how do u know what modifications would have to be made to get the improved Honda engine to fit the chassis? Engines have very limited dimensions and tolerances to work with........
AS for KERS, Brawn being the Team principal had the choice of whether to use it or dump it......
regarding the diffuser...
it was actually a Honda aerodynamsists that came up with the idea.... but he soon moved to toyota... and in doin so gave Toyota the idea and in turn toyota palmed it off to Williams..
For DD Diffuser to work... the whole under body has to work with the concept not to mention the gearbox and rear crash structures... u cant just bolt on the diffuser and go .5 secs quicker.... if that was the case then every single team would have it by now.... the reason why Ferrari BMW and co havent got it yet is coz it requires MAJOR changes to the underbody... the none diffuser teams r practically bringing out a B sepec car for Barcelona
not taking anything away from the team or Brawn... but if we need to get nitty gritty into the facts... then it IS a Honda chassis by design.... anyone who disagrees with that notion obviously isnt well informed...
EDIT: http://realbrawngp.com
really good site to keep up to date with the team and info... they usually have news and information before any other site regarding the team...
theres also a few ppl who are connected to the team around that forum..
punch onz f-onez stylez
lulz...
I agree with you ^^v but Krogoth is states in one of his arguments, that there was a possibillity that merrcedes asked honda if they could put the engine in to their car to be a part of the PWNAGE???? this quote is what really got me angry what stupif fk in their right mind would think that, a car company would ask you to use their multi-million dollar engine to be a part of the team, let me guess soon krogoth will believe that they asked force india to put the engine in their car also...., I agree that honda have made the chassis, but their have been modifications made to it under BRAWNS authority, as for getting another 60 -70 hp (not 30hp again ffs) off the existing HONDA engine, i find it hard to believe that they could do it in three months they spent almost 2 years making their 2009 car wouldn't they have already had the engine, its just hard to believe that they spend 2 years making their 2009 car and leave the engine for 3 months.... yea right, so had honda stayed on they wouldn't have gone with the Mercedes engine and hence would have been 60-70hp down, and hence not be doing as well. Even Jenson Button has said that most teams have caught up to BRAWN in the aerodynamics part, and that they dont have the edge over the rest like they did in the first two races. Jenson didn't win Bahrain because he's car was better than the rest, it was because their strategy just panned out as the planned, luckily for them, and anybody would know that had they watched the race (i.e. krogoth).
look at u on the rags over what i said about the Merc wanting to be a part of the Honda chassis
Sure, why not? A smart company sees a good chassis and spots a healthy investment oppurtunity, why wouldnt they offer their assistance to Brawn?
I'm not saying thats what happend, but its definetley a possibility(ie that there was a possibility that MERC asked BRAWN, not honda, dont put words in my mouth u fk head)
You still cant get it in your fat fukn head.....the BRAWN TEAM = HONDA TEAM, EVERYTHING IS THE SAME
BRAWN was in charge before, and he is in charge NOW, no fkn difference
If honda had not pulled out, this is how it would have played out
1. Since FIA gave Honda and Renault permission to continue development on their engine at the end of the 08 season, they had 3 months to get a power increase
NOW READ THIS PART CAREFULLY, I have spelt it out before MANY TIMES, but ur dumb fkn head seems to always miss it
30hp, should be easily attainable without too much messing around
60-70hp, possible but difficult to attain in 3 months
2. SINCE Brawn was still at Honda and being the TEAM PRINCIPAL and the big guy in CHARGE OF EVERYTHING
He could do whatever he liked, so, had honda stayed, the same controversial diffuser would have been brought in and the decision to run KERRS or not was still in Brawns hand.
3. Strategy is what won the race in Bahrain, I never said it wasnt a factor u stupid simple minded word spinning dickhead
Sure it was a factor that Brawns experience and strategey help his team win races.....but Brawn would have still been there and made the same decisions under the Honda name
4. YES the MERC engine is one of the best in the game....it is a fkn mad engine
It is at least 60hp more powerful than the honda engine in the 08 design, So the MERC engine is a significant factor in Brawns results
BUT had HONDA stayed, they had enough time to improve their engine to a level that would not have been far behind the MERC engine since they wer allowed to continue development
Now U stop being a close minded dickhead, and stop twisting my words, and IT IS MY FKN OPINION that IF HONDA had stayed the same results would have occured
So **** off ur high horse and dont attack me because u disagree with my opinion u fkn dumbass
Disclaimer: i know the user binny personally, we would not hesitate to argue in this rude manner with each other face to face, though i insist he started the shit stirring first, the fkn kunt
verdicts out on the Maccas 'lie-gate' saga...
3 race 'suspended' ban... so in other words they're free to go unless further facts arises or if they decide to lie again to the FIA within the next 12 months....
http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headline...29130356.shtml
Hey guys its me Lewis Hamilton.
Looks lets face it, it is a combination of engines AND chassis that win races.
Look at the 08 season, when the back of field were running Ferrari engines and coming dead last, and when some teams were running the Renault motor and winning races.
Could Honda have worked on a winning CHASSIS and ENGINE combination? No one will know. It is ignorant to assume so. If we look back to previous seasons, and in fact history, an educated, unbiased guess would be clearly no. Unless you look till Honda's first year in Honda, they have not won a championship using their own engine/chassis combination. (It was either their inaugural year, or sometime long ago).
I think many out there are missing the point of a F1 teams. Regardless if it raced or developed under a factory, it is just an entity, a name. Ultimately, this will boil down to how long is a piece of string...
Honda started developing the car early 2007/late 2008. In December, effective immediately, Honda racing as a team no longer existed. Then in February Ross Brawn began hes control of operations.
Now, Ross Brawn was hired in 2007, so you could say it was a Brawn car from then, but the car, the factory, the group of engineers came under the entity Honda. Following me so far?
Then Brawn took over operations and for a month, lets assume 2 modifications were made to the car. Do not forget for one second that 1.5 mm adjustment to the front wing makes the world of difference in wet races. Is it the original Honda car? Not entirely. Perhaps if we argued over percentages: 50% Mercedes, 1% Brawn, 49% Honda? Just like when Prodrive brought Glenn Seton Racing and renamed it FPV and MADE modification to the chassis engine, even tho it was the same team members, just a different name, it becomes the FPV car. How long is a piece of string?
What I'm getting at essentially is that its just an entity. I have a (strong) feeling that Honda supporters, especially on this forum are grasping so tight to this name sake for pride and nothing else. Whilst is it probably healthy, I would imagine everyone abandoning this "Honda" car had it been finishing last.
Long and tiresome? Of course.
Nick Fry has said that they are looking for title sponsors. Might not even be a "Brawn" car for long either...
ok fair enough u make ur point
i hope this isnt som1 else posting up with a different username...
+1, couldn't have said it better myself, as meatloaf would say "you took the words right out of my mouth".
gg captian faggot, you ****ed team mclaren
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9281.html
i loled...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lewis_Hamilton
Hey dude its a suspended 3 race ban, that means he can race but if mclaren does something in the next 12 months to bring the sport into dissrepute then and only then will they recieve the three race ban. btw Lewis Hamilton was told to lie by mclaren so they kind of fk'd themselves up. epic nub much?Quote:
Originally Posted by GreekWarrior
So I am a BW (band waggoner), I have gone for Lewis Hamilton since his fkn debut race in 2007 and i am a BW, youre the fkn one who just took an interest in f1 because some team called BRAWN GP which has a honda chassis, is PWNING.... I agree with Lewis "I would imagine everyone abandoning this "Honda" car had it been finishing last." and espescially you.Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
"Honda said Brawn will have full responsibility for designing, manufacturing, and engineering the team's car." really, did they? I thought ROSS BRAWN had no choice in what engine went into the chassis, yet he had full responsibillity? this is a quote from you "HONDA gave BRAWN no choice in what engine to put in the RA109 chassis, they wanted to get the **** out of F1 due to insufficient funds", so they dont let him use their engine but they let him use their chassis hmm puzzling :rolleyes:.
cbf with ur dumb shit
i already explained this to u
hardly, your comment was, "honda didn't want to put engine in because it would cost too much and hence the team would be called BRAWN HONDA", which is wrong, Honda would profit if Ross Brawn put the Honda Engine in it because he would have had to pay for it, the reason why he didn't choose it is because its a POS box.Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
Check and Mate. :honda:
ok i agree with you 100%
you are correct
check this out rofl...
http://community.livejournal.com/ti_...rts/26906.html
Quote:
Jenson Button is like the really ugly girl at school
Posted by Simon Rice
* Tuesday, 28 April 2009 at 01:29 pm
Jenson Button's new found success is like turning up at a school reunion and finding that the girl you ignored all those years at school has turned into the most beautiful girl in the class.
Grand Prix races have their beautiful woman, Bernie Ecclestone has his tall women and all schools have their ugly girl. She may have worn glasses, read a few too many books or wore the wrong coloured socks - whatever it was, your school will have had one.
You couldn't be seen with her. To talk to her was forbidden. For fear of wedgy, bog flush or Chinese burn you stayed clear.
Instead, you spent your time pursuing the popular girl, the one who grabbed all the attention. You may have thought you were in love, but like most youthful romances, your heart would inevitably be broken.
Her popularity would go to her head. She would start to hang with the wrong crowd (like P Diddy), think nothing of the odd lie here or there and in the end, she would simply leave these shores for somewhere like Switzerland.
And then you turn up at this reunion and kick yourself. You had forgotten all about her but that ugly girl who kept herself to herself has become the greatest catch of all. Before you know it you find yourself becoming her new biggest fan.
The problem is, you can't help but feel that the years of neglect when you wouldn't give her the time of day have rendered your new found adulation very hollow
He still looks like an ugly girl, he needs to shave the stupid beard of his off. Go button.Quote:
Originally Posted by ^^v
just like he held up alonso 2 years ago lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Binny
I know it's suspend but he's still cf
oh and I forgot when mclaren stole ferrari's shit haha
IMO i think the whole Ross Brawn team, Honda, Mercedes story was fabricated from day one by everyone that is involved and especially the media. The fairytale story is very much to me, a 'fairytale'! I always thought that it was a strange move for Ross Brawn to join the Honda Racing F1 team who were a low performing team, coming from Ferrari who were a front-running squad. Joining Honda for a new "challenge" perhaps...? I don't think so, his too smart and cunning for that. But perhaps for the bigger picture, the very reason that he would eventually have his own F1 team, in meaning Honda had prior knowledge that they would abandon F1 in the very near future. The Mercedes deal most likely went down long before aswell then what the media has stated... I find it difficult to believe that they could mate and heavily modify the Mercedes engine to the RA109 chassis in such a haste period considering the difference in dynamics, weight, distribution, etc.
David Coulthard said he spoke to Button over the winter about Honda pulling out, and if he had a drive etc. and Button apparently was happy, and didn't look worried at all. Like he knew everything would work out. Kind of strange since it was the period where there was uncertainty surrounding the team.
Everything happens for a reason, they don't just happen.. they're planned that way!
BTW, i have no evidence or facts to back my theory.. it is simply my theory! lol I just don't believe everything the lame media throws...
anyways... SPAIN!!! :) BRAWN GP FTW....
conspiracy theory!!
Haha but for this race id like to see alonso come on top
i expect alonso to take pole.. and stop on lap 2...
fight will be between the Brawns n Toybotas.....
Jenson is complaining about the balance... but hopefully they'll get that sorted before Q1...
This could be Rubens' race...
nah vettel for pole