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Why buy a car when a four year old is exactly the same? Besides warranty. Not everyone cares about a warranty especially when you only have to pay half the original price.Quote:
Originally Posted by gmonkey
The question of who makes the best 8 cylinder in the world cant be answered by 1 particular make of 8 cylinder as these engines cover a vast range of different uses & such. Its like saying the Ferrairs F-430 is the best, yeah ok it sounds mad and makes heaps of power, but put it in a 4wd, will it pull itself up a 60 Degree slope??? No it wont, put it in a VE commodore, will the car handle better & be more efficient & get better 0-60 times, no it wont, reason for this is it got fairly low torque as it doesnt need to pull 1600kg+ so this thread is kinda stupid if you ask me!
ahha forced to agree with tony... after all this arguements :p
I think a better rating system is needed, Cheapass lo-tech, slightly better ohc perhaps, then all out money isnt an option class, or maybe just close this thread cos it doesnt mean anything lol. we all know that the discussion is a "gm/holden v8 is the best MATE!" discussion, Dont get me wrong, I love a cammed this n that holden but i still class them as not so great. but yeah, agree with tony
If we talk street driven V8s than europians are far ahead of rest of the world (M3, C63, RS4 ect) if we talk race engines than F1 v8s are the winners
i love how we never stop to think about 4wd v8s lol... stupid 4wd drivers :P now i imagine this will get it started lol
no it wont lol... but i love discusing engine tech lolQuote:
Originally Posted by gmonkey
aparently 1 of the 351 ford v8s was originally made for pic ups, and not suposed to rev at all, wen i saw this engine all i could think about was how massive it was and heavy lol.. the head weighs more than my b18 block with internals.. only jokin :P but the agressive rod angle gave it exelent power
id also havto say is after looking at a few non v8 bmw engines i was suprised to see the lack of power they have in there displacement classes, and the exessive feul consumption, but they dont feel under powered
while im not a fan of the usa made v8s, id have to say im very impressed by the numbers they make in powerboats/dagsters and other 2000hp+ applications
and ofcourse that nice sound they make..
so for bang for buk, aftermarket support, low weight and availability its the low tech restrictive ls1:thumbsup:,
C63 Engine is beautiful ... One of the nicest stock engines i've ever been priviliged to drive.
C63 is the nicest 8 cylinder powered car I've ever driven, it's just perfection, and just recently I drove one with chip upgrade, 550HP, just unreal :))
Ferrari Type 056 V8 90 degree angle 18,000RPM. The V8 off the E92 M3 is sweet tooo 8,400 RPM redline is pretty good for a street V8.:D
572 (zz) BB Chev from GM ... Factory 720 HP....
look it up
volkswagens V8s are great too... although there more of a W config
got to painstaking reading all the earlier posts, but am just going to say ls9 in the zr1 corvette x2 thumbs up
mugen built v8
or any other f1 company for that matter
when holden/gm can make a v8 good enough to race in the with the best
its just a over rated motor
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needs visuals :)
for classic sound definately the 454ci GM comes to mind :)
best in the world, so many nice variants, euros would get my vote (mmm AMG sedan, love the CL) or the custom made block and head that's in this Studebaker that drove to a show I was at in Ohio from a few states over, Summit Racing ftmfw :), and some others from the show including 454 equipped Nova and 600ci gm performance packed Camaro
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mmm Ford powered Celica, fits better than the toyota v8, more room to get around, cheap as chips, more aftermarket support, win win
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For classsic sake are rareity also for its time
nothing beats the 428Ci Cobra Jet
found in the 1968 Shelby Mustang GT500 KR (aka ELEANOR)
Ive personally been in one when i went to the states and it %^&*ing haulls ass!
SPECS:
Bore 4.130 inches
Stroke 3.984 inches
Horsepower: 335 brake horsepower @ 5600 RPM (UNDERRATED really about 370 mark)
Torque: 445 foot-pounds @ 3400 RPM
Compression Ratio 10.6:1
LOL. my mate has 460ci of pure evil going in his '69 stang. Got yates SVO C3L heads (supercar) heads.....
She made 701hp/595tq@6800rpm 409tq@2900rpm,508tq@4000rpm to redline. Tuned for steet LOL!!!
what about the c63 engine of the AMG?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_M156_engine
Audi V8'sake the most deliciously mellow sound. But Ferrari V8s get my vote.
i dont want to start shit here but correct me if im wrong, it was under my impression that the mugen v8 was based on the 308 which is a GMH motor, just internals they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by 90LAN
not that im biased, i just want to know.......
EDIT?
my bad i thought it was the mugen v8 that was in discussion not the honda one.... but any comfirmation on the origins?
honda is a premier motor building company as if they need a dinosaur design of a another company to design a motor which can spin to 19k rpm
big blocks
new fav, 6.3L AMG quiet when cruising but one once of force on the pedal unleashes bloody Satan :)
I think it would be the latest bmw m3 e92 with 4.0L v8 DOHC S65B40
The S65B40 was based on the S85B50 5-litre V10 that powers the E60/E61 M5 and the E63/E64 M6
414 bhp (309 kW; 420 PS) at 8,300 rpm
peak torque at 400 N·m (300 lb·ft) at 3,900 rpm,
power increase of 22% over the E46 M3. The engine weighs 15 kg (33 lb) less than the outgoing six cylinder for a total weight of 202 kg (450 lb)
But in the M3 GTS has 4.4L v8 that produces 450 bhp (336 kW; 456 PS) (not sold in Aus )
I do agree some of the old chevy's ad ford v8 were great in there day but now they old technology that is use in drag racing, nascar and v8 supercars
funny u say this... in drag racing esp in supercharged outlaws, doorslammer and top fuel categories they still use fairly old technology, e.g. carby's, pushrod v8, the use of cams instead of a pheumatic (or however you spell it) valve systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by pat88c
and nascar dont use electronics and are still carby aswell which is awesome for reliable 800hp
no attack here just my 2 cents worth.
saw a guy on the tube with an older worked M5 making 1000hp, couldn't use it as a track car as the thing once leaving the corners would have no traction until the next corner lol
mmm M5 v8s
Haha Holden haven't built anything themselves since '95 when they split off from Toyota. Dopey buggers.Quote:
Originally Posted by T-onedc2
This is by far the best V8 in the world..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlMLqdvHzI