you need to put your foot down more! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
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you need to put your foot down more! lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EK1.6LCIV
sounds like your servo is pulling the dodgeQuote:
Originally Posted by Felix
used to get ~400-450Km per ~42L
after putting in a skunk2 chip i get ~300Km for ~42L... it's obvious these generic tunes are useless unless you have the mods they were 'tuned' for... common sense really but i thought i'd get it anyway :p at least i can do my own crome stuff later hehe
It's just the raw power of the d16 that leads to such a low fuel consumption lolQuote:
Originally Posted by JasonGilholme
As said previously. DC2's have 50L tanks. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by dsp26
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Originally Posted by Borg
My question is why would you increase the operating costs of your vehicle by using 95 RON or 98 RON on an engine designed to run on 91 RON. you will find it will make very little if any difference to fuel consumption.
I have used 91 RON exclusively on my Civic and to my knowledge no one can get close to my average fuel consumption, but i dont drive in the city.
my worst is 33L for 450km that was with a heavy foot, my best is been about 25-28L for 400km ( i refill at that mark )
Before my service i was getting 400km to a full tank with 5 ltrs left in the tank.
now after changing oil to royal purple, oil filter, spark plugs to iridium and cleaning k&n filter. now getting 450km out of a full tank with 5 ltrs left. In an EK4.
i got 318kms after filling up 35$ of petrol. can someone tell me how many litres a eg civic can hold?
35 -42??
EK hatch, 350-400km cruising around, strappin it a bit and most i got was between 500 and 550km goin to the goldie and back
45 litres... GliQuote:
Originally Posted by omgitsmatt
The other day in my '07 VTi-L i got 545k's on 35litres = 6.42l/100k. I thought that was pretty good. About 100k's of that was highway driving. Mostly going around 60k's though, and a few traffic jams. I thought i would test out that 'keep it under 3200revs to keep i-vtec on'.
my box of snot worn out d15b gives me 440km's with a 40l tank, not bad for a powerless portion of shite
320-380 km with 35l.
My record is 520 km with 35l (cruizing on highway - 120km\h)
When i was only getting 300km from 33L i was like eh wtf? I let the car run as close to possible try as i could. When i filled it up, put 39L in... Ever since then i been busting out 400km's per 33L...
This is a question I have discussed ad nauseum with my cousin who is a motor mechanic, as I was always of the same opinion as you.Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
It is his belief that the few cents per litre more for 95 or 98 RON is justified by the better quality fuel. For some cars that will result in better fuel economy and performance, but it is the effect on the engine that he uses to justify his opinion. Many engines that he sees that use 95 or 98 are cleaner than those only using 91 RON.
He thinks the majority of 91 RON petrols have too many impurities and not enough additives whereas the better quality of 95 RON for just 5 cents more a litre is the minimum he would use.
He knows far more about cars than me!
On the other hand though, my old man only ever gets the cheapest fuels at discount petrol stations. He drives a Mazda 3 SP23 and has never had any problems with it, and gets more kms out of a tank than that quoted by Mazda!!!
i can get close to 650km on my 45L tank. (mix of city and freeway driving)
Auto 07 Vti (only second tank through the car though)
I got 420km for 40L..
- 30% freeway and reletivley open roads though with aircon on a some of the time.
- 70% peak hour in the city, gridlock more stop than start
96 Ek1 gli manual
540km on 45L full tank. Could of squeezed more ks but didn't have the balls to do a Kramer.
90% city driving
10% highway
did 500km today and only used 39 litres of my 45 litre tank.
first 400km of non-vtec. last 100km of using vtec, =)
but, my low fuel light doesn't work, so i filled up. damn it, could've got another 80kms or so out if it. hehe
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Originally Posted by Borg
I can see the calculators coming out and heads shaking in dis belief.
If you want to keep your engine clean, change your oil and filter every 5,000km. I am probably the only silly bugger who does that.......LOL
What a bad mispost that was, i will try again
Being a mechanic of 32 years experience i understand that view, however fuel contamination has always been a problem. Be it 91, 95 0r 98 octane does not eliminate that possibility, however i believe the quality of fuel today is far better than in years past, providing we buy fuel form the larger suppliers. As for fuel additives, each company has there own belief on which additives work best and they all differ. Which is best in the real world.....whatever works for you. I have used nothing but standard 91 octane since i brought my Civic and the ecconomy still amazes me.......31,339kms......2,167.43 liters
wow thats 6.9l/100km what conditions do you drive in, city or highway?
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Originally Posted by clayton4115
6.916 to be exact which i find very impressive, and would you believe the overall average is decreasing fractionally every week. In the last 11,500kms i have only once gone over the 7L/100km, and that was after a few days in sydney.
This is a country car that is not driven hard, nor is it treated like a baby. Usually whatever is the posted speed limit + 5 to 10%.
If you want unbelievable my last 5 weeks have resulted in 6.71, 6.53, 6.34, 6.43, 6.50. That is very consistant and the differences could easily be put down to the level of weekly refils. Before anyone says that is impossible everything is recorded in a log book i will happily share.
yes even i record all my trips on excel thanks to SG2, i have been going down as well, i am averaging 7.70/100 but i do alot of surburban stop start driving.
Actually, the above figures dont explain how incredible the fuel consumption now is. I say that because there has been a marked improvement since the 20,000km mark, so if we use that as a starting point i am sure most of you would shke your heads in disbelief. From 20,145km till present (31994) i have used 747.49 Liters to travel 11,849km.........would you believe that equates to 6.308L/100km.........unbelievable.........that is almost 1L/100km better than advertised by honda and people say advertised fuel consumption is unrealistic and cant be achieved in real world driving. I have put that theory to sleep permanently.
Sorry for the misleading figures, i should tripple check my calculations before posting. It should read 785.11 liters to travel the last 11,849km. Still a remarkable set of figures.
just filled up today 30.90 Litres @$1.15/L travelled 436 kms, equates to around 7l/100km
I average 520km in the new TR
I wish I was getting those great Kms... On my 3rd tank (1st wasn't measured as I don't know exactly how much fuel went in) but for the next two it has been terrible and worse for the more recent one. Hopefully it improves over time, haven't been thrashing it at all, but 90% city driving with a LOT of stop start.
2nd tank got 400km for 41L so 10.3L/100km
3rd tank got 360km for 40L so 11.1L/100km
Certainly worse than my 1.8L Mazda 323 was, at this point.. Keeping a log of odometer readings and fuel put in, see how it goes as the km add up...
Ej8 coupe D16y8 - 40L tank
stock - average 530km
+ Turbo (untuned) - 500km hitting boost daily
+ Turbo (tuned) - 270km half tank left (hitting boost like no 2moro!)
2 fuel tanks isnt enough to judge a cars fuel efficiencyQuote:
Originally Posted by Joele
the engine hasnt been run in yet
u gota wait, at least until 10k kmz intil the car will hit something close to the advertised efficiency
and of course the usual stuff, like driving style, city of hwy etc has a HUGE influence of fuel consumption
just got back from work, all city driving, some initial heavy traffic,
i got 7.5l/100
23.80km travelled
36km/h average speed
400 - 450 per tank
i can get about 600-650 per tank (45L)
I have to disagree with that comment (with regard to the current model civic anyway). Going by my log book for the first 10,041km i used 706.81 litres - an average of 7.04L/100km which is less than advertised. Sure it has improved since, but i think that is due to my learning how to get the best from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
that should read 7.068
fair enough, i cant believe some of the numbers ppl get here
u must be on the freeway alot??? i mean heaps, since ur in QLD
for me, roughly 420km out of 36L
which is roughly 8.34L/100km
90% city, thrashed driving
my civic is quoted at 7.3L/100km
I get about 560kms out of full tank in my EG, stock standard besides pod air filter and 4" cannon.
And thats city driving every day, no freeway driving here.
I am not on the freeway at all, country qld and secondary rural roadsQuote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
450k avg when it was carby
500k avg since it's a vtec
Thats still a world of difference compared to where I live and work. Basically inner northern suburbs,and working inner south of Melbourne, so almost always driving in very heavy traffic..Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
My trip to work takes an hour during the day (each way), at midnight it would be 20 minutes... I'll go back to the train soon, once the novelty wears off ;-)
I totally agree it is a lot different to city driving, but given the right conditions it just shows how economical these cars can be and i must say it still amazes me. With an average of 6.9 (and that is reducing fractionally every week) i dont know of another car in this class that could go close to matching it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joele
I do drive from Melbourne to Tumut (NSW) every 4 months or so, so for that I am sure it will be great. I hope so ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
abt 400km until the fuel lights up..
42litre car i think...
its a d16y1 engine.. 1994 honda civic sedan :P anyone can tell me my petrol tank size?
As mentioned previously my fuel consumption is improving with milage, but to be honest i am wondering when it will stop improving. I am continually amazed each week with the ecconomy i am getting. Over the last 6 weeks i have done 3,004 kms, with no trip further than 25km, and used 193.45 liters. To me that is unbelievable, but the end result is 6.45L/100km.
i get about 450-500 on average
4th tank through the car and down to 9.5L/100km.. hope it keeps improving.. LOL..
I've got like 400 at 75% empty, will tell you once it's done by end of the arvo
Interesting, this site is claiming in their tests that it is 9.8L/100km in the city and 6.5L/100km on the highway for the 07 Civic...
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/23862.shtml
EDIT: That is Auto BTW
my civic gets about 450-500 a tank with a H22a
Man I've gone heavy footed. I usually get 350-400 nowadays as opposed to my previous 500+ ><
It is worth noting that the link is to a US site, a US gallon is less than the imperial gallon that we use for conversions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joele
I have been playing around with my driving style for the last few weeks trying to determin how low i can get the fuel econnomy. pls note these figures are totally accurate if people wish to concentrate on ecconomy driving.....no hard acceleration, cruising at 95kph.....etc. Week 1....452km, 28.8 lts = 6.37L/100,
week 2....505km, 32.55 lts = 6.5L/100km, week 3.....469km, 28.87lts = 6.37L/100km. No long trips during that 3 week period......ie - 4 trips per day of 23km
as everyoen has been sayin, u prolly have some sort of problem id yo engine / fuel management system or wateva ..
usually on a full tank .. most ppl get 480+ ... widout vtec'n all d time... and some gettin dat much .. vtec'n all d time ...
get it checked
Safeway/Caltex 91 ron lol That's what I use and I drive a 91 eg breeze with a d16y1. I got 520kms outta the tank last week since I had to run up to Geelong to pick up a parcel shelf, and Sunshine for a slim radiator fan haha.
I never really saw a difference on economy between 91-95-98 ron fuels. Car performed properly like always as well. Bumper becomes equally black as well regardless of fuel type.
Had good experiences, but will be moving to 98 ron when the H22A get's dropped.
I did do the conversion from US gallons not imperial...
Interesting while my roof gets resprayed I was loaned a Jazz Vti for the week.. It (unlike our civics) tells you its l/100km for the trip (why did they exclude that on the civic?). So I reset the trip computer before I left work for home last night..
So driving home down hoddle street (about the worst street in Melbourne which is turning into the worst city for peak hour in Australia IMO) the little Jazz achieved an amazing 10.9l/100km for the trip home last night LMAO you stand still on hoddle/punt more than you move.. averaging 9.5l/100km in my civic doesn't seem that bad, when most of the fuel is used in to/from work trips..
I am off work in a couple of weeks, I will see what my fuel consumption is like when I am not sitting still in peak hour to and from work each day. If it isn't drastically better I will bring it up with my service center..
I just got 500kms in my Gen2 CRX. ~35lt Tank - Pacific Highway FTW.
Hey guys, i got an EK, with a full tank costing me on average $35-$38 (around 40L) i get around 350Km is that bad???
i dont see no oil leaks or fuel leaks and i have a K&N air filter with no other mods
shouldnt your car have around a 45-50L tank?Quote:
Originally Posted by c00lman
40L for 350km is kinda crappy, thats over 10L/100km.
I get about 380-400km I think. Its kinda of bad eh? Is it due to me vtecing it more often and often using 4th gear at 100km/hr? haha thanks ppl.. i go 5th only when i am pass 110km/hr mark. haha.. so my poor consumption is due to the way i drive?
well drive.com.au lists my car having 45LQuote:
Originally Posted by SeverAMV
but thats assuming im filling it up from complete empty (which im not)
so lets say 40L, yeah gets me about 350k so thats crap ay?
what could be the prob? its auto...and i use premium and normal at time, and i have a new fuel filter
There is also a HUGE variation depending on the conditions in which you drive...
Its not just city and highway.. some people consider driving through the burbs of a major city - city driving. Others are driving into or through the cbd in peak hour which are vastly different situations..
yeah mine is mainly the city
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Originally Posted by Fo55il
Ill informed comments really bring a smile to my face. Firstly, no problems have surfaced after 33,000km which means none are likely for a long period of time. I originally thought of the posibility of the engine running too lean and have had it checked, It is as per specifications.
Secondly, it helps to fully understand the operation of the IVTEC system and to drive within those paremeters trying to ensure the IVTEC is constantly doing what it was designed to do (VTEC on to save fuel). It also helps that the conditions I drive under are almost ideal for getting the best possible ecconomy and I have adapted my driving style to suit. It is not a matter of driving around at a snails pace, but rather driving in a manner which keeps the IVTEC on and not going beyond that too often.
I've been getting close to 400kms but not quite... reason is I just acquired the car and I like to VTEC it quite a bit which seems to use a lot of fuel...
overall I believe if i drove like a reasonably person i'd probably get close to 450kms... and also I know it is running a little on the rich side, so after some tuning it could possibly go closer towards 500kms (also going to add a Volt Stabilizer which is meant to help save fuel)
Civic 2006 VTI-L, full tank i can usually get 550kms + ripping it abit...
So i assume driving like my mum would get my past 600...?
I get 500 Km when im reving it here and there; this is with BP ultimate but i have done 600Km before
Here is a copy of my log book for the last 11 weeks. While i have not past 600km on any week i could have easily done so if required. The most amazing thing to me is the consistancy from week to week.
Date..............Kms......Lts.....L/100....MPG....Cost................................ .....
14/09/2007.....28333...38.51...6.66....42.83...$50.50... ................................
15/09/2007.....28910...35.45...5.80....49.06...$42.50... ................................
24/09/2007.....29495...39.28...6.71....42.35...$46.71... ................................ 01/10/2007.....30022...34.42...6.53....43.54...$40.90... ................................
08/10/2007.....30507...30.76...6.34....44.84...$36.55... ................................
15/10/2007.....31012...32.49...6.43....44.21...$38.50... ................................
22/10/2007.....31542...34.43...6.50....43.78...$40.25... ................................
29/10/2007.....31994...28.80...6.37....44.63...$33.10... ................................
05/11/2007.....32499...32.55...6.45....44.12...$38.70... ................................
12/11/2007.....32968...29.87...6.37....44.65...$35.50... ................................
19/11/2007.....33421...29.00...6.40....44.42...$35.95... ................................
Wow very consistant.... You actually keep a log book for your petrol + kms...
Good Work...
Btw how long have u had ur civic for...?
I got the car in July 06, so 16 months and almost 34,000km...yes i keep a log book and i can even tell u the total fuel used in that time as well as the average fuel consumption to date.Quote:
Originally Posted by FallenAngel
lol 3 years since i posted this thread with my last civic.
my new civic, 2002 vi hatchback, 5spd does 680 on average but varies 650 - 700 depending on which route i take.
Mine isn't so happy.. I fill it out on my PDA each time I fill up, I don't know how much fuel the dealer put in at the start unfortunately (wasn't a full tank)..
Date --------- Odometer ---- KMs ---- Fuel Added ------ L/100km
17/10/2007.........279............279............41.7... ................?
25/10/2007.........681............402............41.1... .............10.37
01/11/2007.........1034...........353............40.2... .............11.42 <- BP
09/11/2007.........1463...........429............40.71.. .............9.37
17/11/2007.........1875...........412............40.87.. .............9.88
All Shell standard unleaded other than the one marked BP.. At least I am consistantly under 10L/km and will be for next tank too which is almost finished.. The wonders of travelling through the CBD every day..
average milleage is around 450-500 (cars needa tune up though)
best milleage ive gotten was 670 without touching overflow tank :D
u must be doing nothing but constant speed/hwy drivingQuote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
and grandma driving the rest
and 0 city driving
^He does a lot of rural back roads.
thats country driving, same as hwy in my book
doesnt have to be 100km/h to be considered hwy driving
Sorry to disappoint u but if driving at or slightly above the posted speed limit is grandma driving......so be it, at least i have had no speeding tickets for several years. 75% of my driving is secondary rural roads, 25% country town. A figure that is up to date as of this morning is 33,749km on 2321.66 Litres for an all up average of 6.879L/100km. By the way, a return trip from Sydney - 1407kms in 15hours is not what i would call grandma driving....best recorded fuel consumption that trip was 5.8L/100km. No need to drive like grandma.... or grandpa for that matter......lolQuote:
Originally Posted by krogoth
Gosh 16months and 34,000km...Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
I got mine in Dec 06 and atm i'm up to my 30,000 service in a week...
I'm probably just driving too much ^.^