Buying oil

Hello everyone i am a very proud s2000 now :)

The question i have, is that i remember reading a tread about what oil to put in your car, such oils as Shell, Castrol, Mobil 1, Royal Purple ect mentioned. The thing is that i have no idea where to find them i was looking for a 10-30 synthetic oil no luck (i went to super cheap auto and autobahn). So any information on what to buy where would be great!

Thanks Michael

Oh and i hope there isnt a thread like this allready as search didnt really help :(

I use OEM Honda, change every 5000km.

Always run OEM in all my Hondas, even the old aircooled ones and they get HOT. No problems at all.

Buy OEM from dealer... $40 buks from dealership, but bargain with them and buy 2 or more for $35 each. haha... I bought 3 bottles @ $35 each/5litre

Yeah I buy 2x5 litre engine, 2xtrans and 1xdiff with filters and washers and get a good deal too. I keep one 5 litre spare all the time for top ups.

Honda FEO is a cheap mineral oil. So don't pay too much for it.

FEO - Thats the one. All my engines run mineral oil. Cheap and changed every 5000km is perfect. We run mineral oils in trucks, cheaper than synthetic and ensures you change it often. Some synthetics last 80,000km before the first oil changes in trucks, but you need to oil sample every 20,000km and the oil is very dear.

Best just to change the oil alot - beats changing a motor. I think personally synthetic for a daily driver so you can be lazy and stretch out the changes to 10-15k otherwise mineral OEM is perfect.

yup i change every 3-5000.

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Originally Posted by rokkuchan

Buy OEM from dealer... $40 buks from dealership, but bargain with them and buy 2 or more for $35 each. haha... I bought 3 bottles @ $35 each/5litre

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Ohh man, i got ripped off. Honda charged me $44 lol

Gee so much info so fast thanks! Well by the sound of it i am just going to go oem for every thing then, and try and get it a bit cheaper if i get all the fulids together :)

You don't have to run FEO. FEO is a good oil but there are other oils out there that are better. Especially if your car will see the track here and there. Any good synthetic is any easy win and is better than FEO. IMO you can't go wrong with Elf, Motul, Mobil 1. 10w-30 should be fine, if your car has seen a few km's eg 100,000+ then run a 10W-40 as it's slightly thicker. Most these oil's are available at either repco, autobahn etc.

i dont know whats its like in NSW, but if you have a local honda wreckers, they might sell honda oil.

I know mine does.

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Originally Posted by JAP-S2K

You don't have to run FEO. FEO is a good oil but there are other oils out there that are better. Especially if your car will see the track here and there. Any good synthetic is any easy win and is better than FEO. IMO you can't go wrong with Elf, Motul, Mobil 1. 10w-30 should be fine, if your car has seen a few km's eg 100,000+ then run a 10W-40 as it's slightly thicker. Most these oil's are available at either repco, autobahn etc.

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I agree,IMO the only thing mineral oil is good for is running in engines, go a synthetic oil

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Originally Posted by JAP-S2K

You don't have to run FEO. FEO is a good oil but there are other oils out there that are better. Especially if your car will see the track here and there. Any good synthetic is any easy win and is better than FEO. IMO you can't go wrong with Elf, Motul, Mobil 1. 10w-30 should be fine, if your car has seen a few km's eg 100,000+ then run a 10W-40 as it's slightly thicker. Most these oil's are available at either repco, autobahn etc.

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Well i went to the honda dealer to day and got my self some oil (which is fine for now then, because i dont have a licence for another 2 more months and its just my gf driving it the odd time around town) might look into the synthetic stuff then because i do want to track it as well, the only thing is that i cant find any of them oils in 10-30 (my car has 85000kms) around hear i have tried super cheap auto, autobahn and repco, do i have to order them in? or is my town just povo Lol?

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Originally Posted by Si1enzio

Ohh man, i got ripped off. Honda charged me $44 lol

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Lol i bought 1 oil today and it was $36 and i didnt even ask for a discount :)

If the places your going to sell brands such as Motul, Elf or whatever brand you want to use, Just ask them to order it in, as they'll usually only stock oil viscosity's that are premium sellers.

My old man took my Honda oil and used it in his Toyota van lol, then he comes in and goes I used your oil... so I go outside and he didn't close the lid properly, left the bottle and funnel all oily and didn't even put anything back in its spot... had the shits but what can ya do.. he must be getting old!

I use Valvoline Synthetic 10w30. Costs about $38 for 5L. You can get it in Big W.

i was using semi synthetic 5-40.. now im using full synthetic 5-40.. and for some reason my S isnt munching as much oil as it once was? whats up with that lol? I used to top of my oil like every petrol stop -.- lol.

Most autobarn, supercheap, repco stock 10W30 such as Valvoline Durablend, Shell Plus Eco, Castrol GTX, just to name a few...

Some Kmart and BigW also stock Durablend and GTX

One Repco I know of still have what left of Mobil1 10W30 discontinued stock.

Fully synthetic oil genenerally have less oil consumption than mineral oil based on higher flash point and noack.

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Originally Posted by STAiN MASTER

My old man took my Honda oil and used it in his Toyota van lol, then he comes in and goes I used your oil... so I go outside and he didn't close the lid properly, left the bottle and funnel all oily and didn't even put anything back in its spot... had the shits but what can ya do.. he must be getting old!

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Better check he got the right amount of oil in the Toyota....:zip:

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Originally Posted by slidetaker

Better check he got the right amount of oil in the Toyota....:zip:

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He used about 3 and a half lts, i put some 98 octane in it as well, it goes harder now :)

hey guys just got a question....been reading up on the post.... for the s2ks i thought best oil was fully synthetic? 0-40?!? i've been topping up with mobil1 0-40. Will service it soon. Should i continue using 0-40?

Royal Purple 5w-30, the good stuff imo.

i have just filled mine with MOTUL 8100 X-Cess 5W40 100% Synthetic

http://www.motul.com.au/product_line...4stroke11.html

but heres another one of there goodies for circuit and street racing cars ;)

http://www.motul.com.au/product_line...4stroke04.html

received these scans from a friend of mine, not sure wat magazine it came out of but thought id share it here .. and i noe there is a lot of different opinions of oils but atleast this is somewhat closer to just hearing someone say something is good or bad. Royal Purple certainly kept its reputation whether it be by mouth or magazine testing.

iv ebeen told that the motul 8100 0w-40 is really good
i've gone through most brands
castrol 10w-40 semi-synthetic
mobil super 10w-40 semi- synthetic
helix ultra 5-40 full synthetic
and am now trying castrol edge 5w-30 full synthetic
for me, castrol edge which is the one im using right now has turned out the best, such smooth revving aswell.
cant say the same for mobil and the standard castrol.
shell helix ultra is also pretty good

at work whenever a customer asks me about what oil they should be running in their performance car i recommend castrol edge sport, mobil1 or a nulon full synthetic (top quality aussie product)

if you are going to be tracking it as well i recommend going something like a 10w50 maybe even 10w60 cos the last thing you want is to spin a bearing as i have seen on a BNR34 GTR Nur (owners mechanic used a 10w40)

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Originally Posted by tamay_s2k

iv ebeen told that the motul 8100 0w-40 is really good
i've gone through most brands
castrol 10w-40 semi-synthetic
mobil super 10w-40 semi- synthetic
helix ultra 5-40 full synthetic
and am now trying castrol edge 5w-30 full synthetic
for me, castrol edge which is the one im using right now has turned out the best, such smooth revving aswell.
cant say the same for mobil and the standard castrol.
shell helix ultra is also pretty good

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That's probably because the Edge was 1 step thinner than the other oils that you used at 30 weight.

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Originally Posted by tamay_s2k

iv ebeen told that the motul 8100 0w-40 is really good
i've gone through most brands
castrol 10w-40 semi-synthetic
mobil super 10w-40 semi- synthetic
helix ultra 5-40 full synthetic
and am now trying castrol edge 5w-30 full synthetic
for me, castrol edge which is the one im using right now has turned out the best, such smooth revving aswell.
cant say the same for mobil and the standard castrol.
shell helix ultra is also pretty good

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just buy royal purple lol.. ima do it soon.

I use Castrol edge 5 – 30 I think its that weight, tried Shell Helix but gets used too quickly, Honda stuff not very good, done a track day with the Castrol and held up great, been using it ever since, everyone should keep an eye on oil levels very frequently and don’t be I tight arse on cost of oils, do it your self and use the best and still cheaper than getting someone else to do it, I am also going to get a magnetic sump plug when it needs to be replaced as well.

I've been using oem honda oils since i've had my car but my last serviced i changed the oil to castrol edge 5-30. i felt the difference, so much smoother.

I use the Edge 0-40 from memory.

So what would the verdict be for someone that has recently purchased an s2k and is doing their first service since buying the car, any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by gamgam

So what would the verdict be for someone that has recently purchased an s2k and is doing their first service since buying the car, any suggestions?

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If your car was purchased used, then it is not really the "first" service. So you can go for any synthetic oil in the correct viscosity range. I'd say try Edge 5w-30 first as it is cheap when on offer ($35-40) and great for the amount of money you pay while protecting better than FEO and all the other semi-synthetics out there.

does anybody know what oil hannys use for honda s2000s?
i knows its ELF. ELF what but

you guys prefer ELF or castrol
if u have used both?

thanks

omg s2ks drain oil found myself adding like 1 litre of oil over a 3 week period.... is this normal?

Yes lol. I used to check it and sometimes fill up everytime i'd go to a servo to fill up.

holy... ap1 is such a oil killer. zzz

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Originally Posted by Midnight_motors

holy... ap1 is such a oil killer. zzz

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Generally only '99 & '00 were the oil guzzlers. But not all. Honda did do a recall to all S2000 owners that had high oil consumption. Obviously not all went back. My previous S2K easily went through a litre plus every 1000 km's. But generally F20C do chew oil....... They do rev to 9. Can't have everything.

mine was eating a bit when it was on FEO. But switched to Castrol edge full sythentic now so it stopped eating. FEO = mineral? Mineral oil burns.

yes FEO is mineral oil

I've personally found it to be the same Mineral or Synthetic. Going from a 30 to 40 weight helps a little.

I'm using Motul 300V, dam it's smooth but seems to chew alot more oil than honda oem oil ...... not sure why that is... mmm.. any idea?

also remember that the different weights affect how wide of a heat range the oil operates in

your not wrong 98octane i almost ran it dry it chewed it that dam quick :O

What you mean 98 octane chewed it? you should always use 98 Octane. Shell helix used heaps of oil but castrol edge 5-30 seems pretty good but keep an eye on it. check radiator overflow for black sludge if your have lots of oil usage then you have problems

i've used oem, royal purple 5-30, nulon 5-30..
i say go with royal purple.. its.. so.. nice.. and smmmooottthh.. and warms up so quickly.... but if its too much, try nulon..

a friend of a friend lol.. had a oil test day + dyno, apparently had some better gains with nulon oil, so i gave it a try.. feels pretty good.. i duno about gains but definately worth a try

nulon is a good australian product that uses a 'castrol base' to create their product once they have finished adding all their own additives and stuff. i use it regulary on cars at work and even after 10,000km of day to day driving, the nulon oil looks alot cleaner than what ive seen come out of some other cars using different brands

interesting, i've had my S for around 2000-3000km so far, and it hasnt burnt any oil as far as i can tell (checking the dipstick after a long drive, giving the oil 5min to settle). :D

check on cold engine?

Car might be like mine - hardly uses oil.

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Originally Posted by ludecrs

Car might be like mine - hardly uses oil.

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possibly - i know the previous owner looked after the car religiously. might do a cold check like jesses2k suggested just to be sure.

mine runs fine now on 5-30 oil. it took me awhile to figure out best oil and from what i can tell after 9 months of owning my s2 it will not eat at 5w-30

i envy u brad..in every shape n form. :P

Anyone tried Amsoil ATM 10w30 engine oil? This performance comparison seem to suggest it out perform most leading brand. Looks impressive.

http://www.amsoil.com/performancetes.../4Ball_640.jpg

Performance Tests:
http://www.amsoil.com/performancetes...veOilTest.aspx

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Originally Posted by trex101

Anyone tried Amsoil ATM 10w30 engine oil? This performance comparison seem to suggest it out perform most leading brand. Looks impressive.

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i haven't, but hmm. i never know what to think of these comparisons - do the conditions used actually simulate those in the F20?

still, I wouldn't mind trying it.

a question i've had for ages but keep forgetting to ask - where do you guys find brands of oil like asmoil, motul and especially elf? the big commercial stores (supershit etc) only keep the castrols, valvolines and the mobils amongst others.

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Originally Posted by euromandeluxe

i haven't, but hmm. i never know what to think of these comparisons - do the conditions used actually simulate those in the F20?

still, I wouldn't mind trying it.

a question i've had for ages but keep forgetting to ask - where do you guys find brands of oil like asmoil, motul and especially elf? the big commercial stores (supershit etc) only keep the castrols, valvolines and the mobils amongst others.

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I ordered it online, from Harold at performancelub.com
he carry a few brands like Redline, Royal purple and Amsoil. I got my Redline gear oil and Amsoil engine oil from him.

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Originally Posted by trex101

I ordered it online, from Harold at performancelub.com
he carry a few brands like Redline, Royal purple and Amsoil. I got my Redline gear oil and Amsoil engine oil from him.

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thanks heaps! so you buy by the quart?

anyone got a link for elf?

I find the supershit and similar stores will have 'performance' oils if they're in an area where it is common to find drugdealers and their sexspec cars.

Auburn Autobarn for example, they stock elf. I'm sure it will be the same in VIC.

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Originally Posted by EvolElmo

I find the supershit and similar stores will have 'performance' oils if they're in an area where it is common to find drugdealers and their sexspec cars.

Auburn Autobarn for example, they stock elf. I'm sure it will be the same in VIC.

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LOL drugdealers.

ahh, maybe i've been checking the stores in the wrong areas. thanks for that

Don't be fooled by a silly chart. For starters the test done at 1800rpm for an hour???? Because we all drive our hondas at 1800rpm for an hour. Just another bullshit test from an oil company to say 'wow look how good our is.....buy it'
Amazing how everytime an oil company does a test, there oil is either the benchmark or second at half the price. Seriously though, most good synthetic oils are fine to run in your standard engine, to actually find out which is best, you'll need a lab.
Don't spend big dollars on oil, thinking your getting a premium product, there all much the same.

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Originally Posted by JAP-S2K

Don't be fooled by a silly chart. For starters the test done at 1800rpm for an hour???? Because we all drive our hondas at 1800rpm for an hour. Just another bullshit test from an oil company to say 'wow look how good our is.....buy it'
Amazing how everytime an oil company does a test, there oil is either the benchmark or second at half the price. Seriously though, most good synthetic oils are fine to run in your standard engine, to actually find out which is best, you'll need a lab.
Don't spend big dollars on oil, thinking your getting a premium product, there all much the same.

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Even though "1800rpm test" mean shit but it still got the best wear rate among the rest. it does somehow shows how good their extreme pressure additives by Amsoil.

I'm not convinced as the test is done by AMSOIL. Where oil properties matter is when oil tempertures exceed 100 deg. How the oil breaks down, how the additives breakdown or withstand at great tempertures. This is when oils ain't oils. Nearly every oil on the market is o.k at 75 deg, and the wear properties at this temperture is irrelevant. As most factory engines/oil temp's are well above this from factory. That's why i'm saying there test is BS. I'm not slagging AMSOIL as a product, i'm slagging there test method and conditions.

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Originally Posted by JAP-S2K

I'm not convinced as the test is done by AMSOIL. Where oil properties matter is when oil tempertures exceed 100 deg. How the oil breaks down, how the additives breakdown or withstand at great tempertures. This is when oils ain't oils. Nearly every oil on the market is o.k at 75 deg, and the wear properties at this temperture is irrelevant. As most factory engines/oil temp's are well above this from factory. That's why i'm saying there test is BS. I'm not slagging AMSOIL as a product, i'm slagging there test method and conditions.

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There is a delicate engine oil/lubricant forums by the name of BITOG, i always do my research there when i have any question or doubt and some information provided by forumers are indeed very informative.

From what i gather, the general consensus of the best oil around are Redline, Amsoil and mobil.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums...s.php?ubb=cfrm

:thumbsup:Thanks for link.

how would 10w-40 full synthetic nulon fare in an S with 105,000km? too heavy, given winters coming, or fine?

i read through this whole post. can some1 tell me how often you'd need to change the castol edge 05W30 oil and how much it costs etc thanks

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Originally Posted by euromandeluxe

how would 10w-40 full synthetic nulon fare in an S with 105,000km? too heavy, given winters coming, or fine?

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10W-40 should be fine as long as the oil meets the API standards SG, SH or SJ.
edit: "Meets the current API Standards. Edge is rated at SM which is the current standard.

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Originally Posted by Engin09

i read through this whole post. can some1 tell me how often you'd need to change the castol edge 05W30 oil and how much it costs etc thanks

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You change it every 6 months or every 10,000kms. You can change it at 5000kms if your anal but I personally believe quality synthetic oils can be used for longer, and its a waste of money changing so often. Change the filter every 2nd oil change. Obviously if you drive the car hard all the time or go to the track alot I would be changing it more dependant on those factors.

Check your oil level every 1000kms or so as most S2000s tend to burn oil, the level should not dip below the L mark on the dipstick.

I use Edge 5W-30 and I buy it on sale for around $40 for 5L.

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Originally Posted by jbird

10W-40 should be fine as long as the oil meets the API standards SG, SH or SJ.

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I believe the earliest standard recommended for use in modern Hondas is the SJ since that was what the old FEO was tested to. The new bottle is the same oil but SL rated.

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Which oils do you recommend for the diff & tranny? Post em up boys!!!!

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Originally Posted by Si1enzio

Which oils do you recommend for the diff & tranny? Post em up boys!!!!

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Edit: Just noticed that this is the S2000 section.

I use OEM Honda MTF (blue label) for transmission and OEM Honda Hypoid gear oil for the diff. Its a black bottle with gold/bronzey coloured label with gears on it.

Car is stock. Does the job.

a guy on the forums is selling ELF 5-40w oil 5L for $40
any1 used this? or recommends this? how will it be in winter driving in sydney thank you ;) (used in the s2k obviously)

should be fine. i think if you replace your oil every 5000kms, you'd be fine with most products with correct specs.

what oils should i change if i just bought my car? and shud i change the air and oil filterS?

well, i changed ALL my fluids when i bought my car.. 20,000kms. hahaha.. bit over the top. but yeah. peace of mind. just check service history. if it's been done recently and according to schedule, then generally you wouldn't have to.

i would do the oil and oil filter definitely.
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Does anyone here use Penrite 10W-40 (extra 10) ?? It is reccommended for 10W-40 cars,

Penrite full synthetic is one of the best oil on the shelf for the price, beats Nulon and castrol oils I'd believe.

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Originally Posted by Engin09

a guy on the forums is selling ELF 5-40w oil 5L for $40
any1 used this? or recommends this? how will it be in winter driving in sydney thank you ;) (used in the s2k obviously)

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Just buy 5W-30 Castrol Edge for $45 from supercheap..

ill probly buy the elf oil and give it a go sounds good...

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Originally Posted by jbird

Just buy 5W-30 Castrol Edge for $45 from supercheap..

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Yes!! very good quality oil for that price. and i personally dont like ELF.