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I beleive the 2012 Accord Euro has been previewed locally at the Australian International Motor show in Melbourne.
I will be going tomorrow night to check it out.
It is also on the Honda Australia website,with prices up bt $1000,and $500 for metallic paint again.
Will report back ........
Take your camera and upload some photos for us all the see thanks antony........
Pics of the new headlights on the Luxury Navi model from the Melbourne AIMS 2011.
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OMG MILANO RED <3.
http://honda.co.ru/CommonFiles/Honda...ior/Foto-2.jpg
The headlights are so busy, they're different to the NZ ones too.
EDIT: I'd like to see the DRL's switched on though.
Unfortunately, there are no DRL's. The horizontal strip thing is just for show with no leds or light behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by I CU2
Indicator bulb is on right near the grill, active corner lights on the outside where the indicators used to be and a bi-xenon main headlight.
This headlight is only on the JDM Type S, AUDM Luxury Navi, UK Type S models.
Maybe the UK version might get it since the DRL are now mandatory in Europe.
As per Anthony mention Honda australia website updated the picture for new euro
http://euro.honda.com.au/see-the-car...in-colour.aspx
HOwever i do believe they haven't changed the spec sheet asn the spec sheet still reflect tot he prefacelift model.
How many of you guys like the new shape. Personally i love my current prefacelift model wider grill... the new one looks like a typical japanese car front..
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Originally Posted by praja6
http://www.zcars.com.au/images/2010-...cord-euro1.jpg
Facelift
http://euro.honda.com.au/assets/1024...hiteLustre.jpg
http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-conte...ord-euro-5.jpg
Dislike: The grille - yes the current CU2 one I like better.
The tailights - having a pink tinge instead of being clean white.
Neutural - The bumper is meh.
- Rear chrome highlight, good for a black/darker car. For Milano Red, no.
Like - The facelift headlights on the the base/luxury model.
The facelift headlights on the Euro Navi looks much better on the website with the blue part seeming to be illuminated somehow? I'd have to see one in person.
only one pic of the headlights?
Its just my opinion the prefacelift, many of us got CU2 looks more luxuary look with wider grill than the new facelift model. I feel like i am lucky to own the prefacelift model and like the buron silver color. I don't like te new color varieties....
I had a good look at the motor show last night,and the Euros attracted a lot of attention,as there were prople in them constantly.
The facelift is VERY minor,IMHO the only diffirences are clear front indicator lenses and slightly revised grill,as well as chrome strip on the boot.
But the car looks the same,just a bit fresher,but just as good.
The Red one looked HOT,Grey looked the same colour,although its a new shade.
After looking at all its competitors,I am still convonced the Euro is best,for me had the most appeal by far in its segment ...
I like the old headlight more.. with amber indicator
but yeah, have to see the new one first
Looks of cars can't be argued as we all have different tastes, but it looks to me to be a very mild facelift with just a slight freshen up externally, lets see what internal upgrades / goodies it has
To me,the interior looks IDENTICAL,even the door handles which were sipposed to have more of a chrome finish to them...Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
http://www.caradvice.com.au/125875/2...tor-show-2011/
Anyone got photos of standard and Luxury hearlights assembly? (Non bi-xenon). Are they the same as pre-facelift?
1six8 has the new facelift headlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNR888
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Originally Posted by 1six8
Meh, I still like my shape the best lol
The front looks. Smaller. Now. . .a lot ppl saying the cu2 is big. . . . Now Honda made it looks smaller.....
Bu the front body kit. . . . Looks a lot like the falcon. . . . .
Current grille is nicer but makes the car looks bigger. Facelifted front bumper is nicer. Chrome bar at the rear is nice. Interior colour option is no option - Honda Aust couldn't care as long as it is black.
http://www.clutchd.com/wp-content/ga...d-type-s-1.jpg
Chinese version of Accord Euro headlights looks pretty good too
i like my prefacelift module kit :D
btw, anyone has a photo of new facelift module kit?
there is no new facelift modulo kit...it is the same as the prefacelift one....check the japan honda website...Quote:
Originally Posted by CU2CU2
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Originally Posted by CU2CU2
http://www.zcars.com.au/images/honda...ro-modulo1.jpg
Facelift
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/489/modula.png
Same same but different?
Personally, the new headlights look a bit cross-eyed to me, not bad though.
If you check these forums for when the CU2 came out in 08, I'll bet a
lot of CL9 owners prefered their car's looks, at the time. Give it some time,
and we'll start to like the face lift as well.....its still a fantastic car.
in another 2yrs time how the euro going to be look? Even bigger than current shape?
Is the CU2 even that big? It's the same size as a Camry!
bit smaller than camry in length.. may be next gen euro same length as the current big accord or legend
same same but different,, nice!!
went to honda today to ask about the new headlight and front bumper. . . . Holy shit. . . . The new headlight cost $1300 each. . . Bumper is $5xx. . . Really scare me off
If you want a new bumper, you need a new grille to go with it.
Rather put the money into a new Euro...
I agree with antony, financially it is better to put the money towards the Update, any money you spend on cosmetic or other modifications is dead money when the time comes to sell. Sure it is only a very mild facelift, but integrated Bluetooth & USB conectivity is a bonus as well as additional sound deadening, revised gear ratios or ECU upgrade to improve economy slightly are all bonuses.
which headlight? the bi-xenon ones or the standard clear indicator one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Golf_R
it all depends...buying the updated model brand new will lose you couple of grand ones you drive it from the caryard....and the price difference between the value for the car and the new one is a big factor to think about as that can be quite a bit...Quote:
Originally Posted by buddah51au
all the minor upgrades are not justifiable to upgrade considering the money changeover involved.
well...i hear you can get the clear indicator headlights like the updated one for $800-900 for the pair delivered. As opposed to $1500 for just one headlight.
According to honda website, only different in specs i can see in standard euro is auto wiper. I wouldn't spend money on current model to look alike new one.
Personally i would wait for the next release in 2013?
Apparently the 3rd generation Euro will be out in 2013/2014,but there has been no news or spy pics of it yet at all so far.
The 9th generation should be released in OZ in late May or early June 2013. Earlier in the USA. Not much hope of early spyshots as Honda is very secretive. The spyshots for the CU2 only made an appearance just before the TSX was released in USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by antony
I read somewhere Honda would stop producing Legend as not much market here... What do you guys think. A month ago i been to Trivett honda here and look at the legend the interier is top quality..
The asking price 86k driveaway doesn't seems worth
I only see Asians driving legends, then again I mostly see Asians in base mercs/beemers.
WTH that has to do with Honda dropping Legend in Australia? Racist comments are not welcome here thxQuote:
Originally Posted by I CU2
I agree, the Legend looks absolutely stunning, very lux.Quote:
Originally Posted by praja6
I'm Asian myself, I'm just saying that the legend appeals to the Asian market more than the Western market. However, when it comes to the 85k price tag it's more economical to buy a baseline German car so all your friends can be like oooooooh loook at that badgeeeeeeee, rather than psh Honda without them knowing that the legend cost more in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by denot
EDIT: That comment wasn't intended to be racist as I know most if not half+ of the Ozhonda community is Asian as well.
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Originally Posted by I CU2
Don't know what race has got to do with it unless its on a track...that's a big call to make about the Ozhonda community. Has there been a poll taken on that.
And again the only poll that matters is "pole position" which is still on the track...
That sound cancelling system in the Legend is fantastic and beats most for having a quiet cabin IMO
The Legend just seems to appeal to older drivers (probably cause they can afford it).
Okay then, sorry if I offended anyone.
I CU2, i am not sure you did offend anyone by quoting "Asians drive legend".. I can't see anything wrong in that.. MOstly people says here Indians(or we categorized as south asians) drive Toyota and most peole here named the Toyota either camry or corolla as "Curry Car".. When other community people says us, we just take it as joke and don't take it seriously. Personally i don't think anything wrong with you mention, you just quote which category people drive the car anyway.. I am not sure this may offend some sensitive people here? However if someone swear with those words saying with "asians" or indians, yes that i would take as offensive..Quote:
Originally Posted by I CU2
When generally speaking people says mostly Aussies drive Holden or Ford, Asians drive Honda, Indians drive Toyota. I think this is just to categorize which community people mostly drive these car brands....
I just mention this comment based on how i see things here in australia in the past 13yrs and i get along with most community people here. What i mention may be wrong..
Please someone correct me if this wrong..
Yes, that's the way I saw it too. It is highly stereotypical though, but that's how I also see it in real life. I honestly didn't mean to offend anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by praja6
I went to Vietnam a few years back and the market was dominated by Honda's even though they had a Mercedes manufacturing plant there.
They're popular here as well because of the brand association back home, which is why the Legend would appeal to them. To others, the allure of the BMW/Mercedes badge leads them to purchasing C200s/320i's. The badge status shows that you're successful, that would be boosted by paying a few grand extra for the plates: 888888888. It doesn't matter if you drive a 7 series or S class, as long as you have the badge.
Though race doesn't play a large role in choosing the brand of car you drive, it certainly does have an influence.
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Keep editing this post as I see that people take comments here more seriously here than at Whirlpool.
I am with you I CU2.. what i see when i go to parties in my community, the people in good financial situation comes in Merc or BMW.. As you mention its just a mentality or can i say Prestige. They know toyota is reliable and economical, so most average people go for it. . In my country if you are a rich person, you also have to have a Merc or BMW along with few banglos.. However don't just think every people drive BMW or Merc are very rich here. Here in AUstrlaia the flexibility of home mortgage or finance will allow you to buy it..
For me i bought Euro CU2 mainly it is cheaper than IS250 or BMW 3 series and got all state of the art safety features. Plus honda the cu2 is a rebadge of usa luxuary line acura...
i've seen some people barely have enough, but maxed out their credits to buy luxury cars.. I also heard a story of a person who bought a BMW and was totally shocked of the price of replacing a run flat Bridgestone tyre due to a puncture..
also back in my country when i was a kid, people see Honda as an upmarket brand.
I'm shocked at how much it costs to replace the Primacy HP's that our Euro's come with! $450 a corner, are you kidding me?Quote:
Originally Posted by natnat
Should be able to get them for $400 at least. I've got 20k km's out of them so far and they still look brand new. An easy 60k km's should be possible
Its ridiculous paying that much for a tyre, you can get khumo in 235/45 for like 250 ea with the 98 load.
oh well, that's gotta be your first 18" Premium quality tyres then :pQuote:
Originally Posted by I CU2
i think someone already did 55,000kms.. which is very good for tyres with pretty good grip!Quote:
Originally Posted by CU2 Euro 09
Kumho KU31 @ $250 each is a budget quality... it's not really comparable to Michelin at all. but for street use, it should be ok... but it's not suitable for the CU2 imo as the Primacy HP is very quiet but the KU31 will get noisy according to Top One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy
Firstly, you have a point..the primacy are a top tyre, but Ku31 still rank very highly in its class. Also, they are 220 on ebay, even cheaper than I thought. I don't know who Top One are, but I can attest that ku31 are not loud as I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by natnat
Also looking on ebay you can get contisport contact 2 for 261 each in 235/45. No way I could ever justify the extra 500 -700 a set for michellin.
Is importing tyres legal?
Yeah the BMW's run flat tyre cost $650 a corner. While to justify, whoever drive a BMW (Bloody Money Waster) should know what gonna bite him later... Er... that is why I drive a Merc... no? :p
yes, i bought a set of Michelin PS2 in 225 40 18 fr Tirerack in April for only <AU$1000, locally it's $370-$540 each. the tyres arrived at my place in 5-7 working days :)Quote:
Originally Posted by I CU2
what's illegal is if you use the wrong tyre on your car, eg: using <98 load rating on the CU2 for 18".
a set of the Conti Sport Contact 2 in 235 45 18 should be under <AU$950 landed.
but with tirerack you have to contact them directly to make an order and it's cash only for Aust buyers, here is salesperson i dealt with:
Roger Laughlin The Tire Rack [Roger@tirerack.com]
i also have bought 2 sets of Enkei rims from USA without any dramas.
some journalists mentioned that tyres for overseas market may be made of different compound and blah blah and not suitable for our road conditions... this is correct if you buy a snow tyre and try to use it in Brisbane or Cairns.
other than that, i can't see any justification to their comments if i buy a Michelin Pilot Sport 2/3/Pilot Super Sport or Conti Sport Contact 2/3/5 or Yokohama Advan AD08, and use it daily in Sydney.
wait til you move up to a Porsche Cayenne :pQuote:
Originally Posted by denot
a service costs at least $800, and then up to $3000
a 21" tyre replacement costs $1050
weekly petrol bill.. 2-3 times of the CU2?
depreciation... don't even think about it :p
Anyone knows how much would cost the euro CU2 17inch tyres. The one came with my car is yokohama decibel..Just getting idea how much would that cost each
225 50 17 tyres should not be too expensive, Kumho KU31 should be <$140, Conti Sport Contact 3 / Michelin Pilot Sport 3 should be around $250.Quote:
Originally Posted by praja6
In Sydney, Tempe / Taleb tyres are usually the cheapest but you have to know what you want first.
Thats strange Raja,my car came with the Michelin tyres...Quote:
Originally Posted by praja6
luxury & luxury navi = 18" Michelin Primacy HP in 235 45 18 & 98 load rating = wheel 18x8, +55Quote:
Originally Posted by antony
base = 17" Yokohama dB something in 225 50 17
I am not sure My11 models they started using Michelin tyres.. Mine is Jan 2010 built My10 came with Yokkohama decibel.. I don't know its random they use michelin tyres... May be some others bought the standard euro recently can confirm this.Quote:
Originally Posted by antony
I just look at carsales website for standard model car tyre picture and this below 2010 My10 demo euro, if you guys look at the closeup tyre picture it shows "Turanza", this means the tyre is Bridestone.. Seems like for standard EUro they use mix bag of tyres, Yoko, Michelin, Bridstone, unlike they use Michelin only for lux models....
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=131100034364
Most makes have deals with several tyre brands, so it's more of a lottery as to what you get. Apart from the Korean brands who stick with Korean tyre brands only.Quote:
Originally Posted by praja6
Hmm i didnt know that.. but i am sure most people bought cu2 standard before got yoko.. i seen in lexus is250 in the carsales add the tyre is good year..
what tyre your cl9 came with?
Dunlop sp sportsQuote:
Originally Posted by praja6
ohh, seems only luxuary model they use michelin and standard model accord euro seems honda use like an autopick?
Nope, there's lux versions with Continentals
Hmm that seems like a cheap tyre is it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
Hmm that seems like a cheap tyre is it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
Continentals are very good,VW used them on my Jetta,and I did 55600 kilometers with them,and NO signs of wear...Quote:
Originally Posted by praja6
Nope, contis are ExxxyQuote:
Originally Posted by praja6
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Originally Posted by praja6
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Originally Posted by antony
Conti are used as OEM by Merc (check out the C class, most have Conti Sport Contact 3), Renault and VW.... but haven't seen any Japanese / Korean / Australian cars use them as OEM :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Fredoops
I would have thought Honda don't choose tyres randomly... it's a different case with VW Golf cos they make heaps more cars to cater the worldwide market.
Wealth of reviews on tyres (some comments are clueless though.. eg: ppl complaining on summer tyres having no grip on snow):
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/
The CL9 16" came with Dunlop Sp Sports and 17" was Bridgestone Potenza RE040 (2004 all the way to 2008).
My guesstimate is that the CU2's seen with different tyres would probably have had tyres replaced locally..
anyway, i think i'm a wheel and tyre whore :p
You are lol.
Cl9 also came with michellins, both lux and standard back in 2003.
My guesstimate is that the CU2's seen with different tyres would probably have had tyres replaced locally..
YOu may be rite, they locally change tyres here, but why they change it? Or may be it comes from factory different tyres for different batch?
Guy's
My understanding (and this comes from others in other threads) is that for the CU2, the base model wears Yoko Decibels (17's) ex factory whilst the Luxury and the Luxury Navi wear Michelin Premacy's (18's) ex factory.
Have a look at this headlight pic from netcarshow pics database of the newly updated Euro lux nav. You can clearly see DRL's are there, however this is probably a European Accord Euro where DRL's are mandatory. If we do not have them on our Euro lux nav's them we may be able to do a retofit of some type...?
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7...pes2011102.jpg
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Originally Posted by I CU2
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Originally Posted by 1six8
i'm planning to get tyres from tirerack too, and I'm wondering if there are any extra taxes or import duties involved. The price of a set of tires should cost about A$650, well under the GST threshold. Are they any other taxes involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by natnat
thanks.
technically any personal import under AU$1000 (based on exchange rate they use, not what you pay) excluding shipping costs, is not subject to custom and gst. that's my interpretation of the info below:Quote:
Originally Posted by MiSloVic
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/page5549.asp
however, i've been buying things fr USA (tyres, wheels, high flow cat downpipe, h&r sway bars, etc..) and kept them under $1000 with the shipping just to make sure i don't pay extra 15% of customs & gst.
just a note, some tyres the savings can be up to 50% of local price yet some are only 0%-20% cheaper.
eg: continental sport contact 3 in 225 40 18, 92W, landed from tirerack is around US$1058 + $50 bank fees + $60-$80 fitting and balancing = au$1122. locally from Taleb / Tempe Tyres the same set would cost $1000-$1120 fitted and balanced. (i think they must be getting pricings from Conti Aust).
but local retail for Michelin PS2 is $540 from Jaxquickfit and best quote i got was $370 each / $1480 a set. I paid AU$998 for a set landed.
Does the PS2 > Conti Sports?
What about in comparisons to the HP?
How did you pay tiretrack with this bank wire thing?
The PS2 should be similar to Primacy HP, thread blocks and wall thickness are similar. but the PS2 does not come in 235 45 18.Quote:
Originally Posted by I CU2
i think you are looking at the Conti Sport Contact 2, $656 for a set right?
i had Sport Contact 2 in my previous CL9 and Mk6 Golf 118TSI, and was pretty happy with them. they were grippy in the wet. was a bit noisy when new but became quieter as they were worn in. ride comfort should be similar (only 1 layer of ply on the wall on the Conti SC2 and Michelins PS2 / Primacy HP, meaning softer sidewall).
I'm currently on Advan AD08 and it has steel insert on the wall, very sharp steering response, a bit noisy and ride is bumpy but i like it :D
also, being non directional it means more options when rotating them around.
with directional tyres once you get feathering effect / sharp edges on the threads they become noisy and hard to fix, eg: Kumho KU31. with non directional, just flip them around to smooth out the sharp edges :p
Fixed the pinging issue yet?