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  1. #13
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    Looks really like QLD for the bloody LOSS.. if p plates cant even drive NA 4 cyl cars with valve technology lol. WTF is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eg5civic View Post
    Read the rules carefully and exercise them to your full adantage

    It says no vehicle modifications which require a engineers certificate
    Ie if you had a 92 eg si for example with a d16a8 DOHC non vtec, swapping to a b16a should not need a engineers cert as you have not increased the displacement but 10% and you ahvent gone from single to twin cam, or carby to efi
    This man is correct! Any modification that requires an engineer's certificate is illegal for P-platers, regardless of whether you put it in before you got your P's or even if you bought the car like that. Don't know if swapping from d16a8 to a b16a requires an engineer's certificate or not, haven't looked that far into it

    Quote Originally Posted by Chriskoss View Post
    Looks really like QLD for the bloody LOSS.. if p plates cant even drive NA 4 cyl cars with valve technology lol. WTF is that?
    Wrongdizzle! I'm a brissy P-plater driving an ek4, vtec equipped Although there's rumors that this law could come into force

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    haha, laws to make it illagel to drive cars which arnt powered by push rods....
    if u swap ur motor from a d series to a b series, as long as that motor came out with that car orignally its fine.

    and if u leave everything OEM, even the most experienced cops wont know wat it is if u remove the GLI badges.


    oversteer....you wouldn't understand.
    ozhonda 4 lyfe!

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    really

    Quote Originally Posted by PHM91 View Post
    should be 200 and under
    i got quoted 1500 for d15b4
    Quote oh dear ****ing lawd. my d*ck did more than move. it jumped out of my pants, and tore the fly open....

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    Quote Originally Posted by eg5civic View Post
    Read the rules carefully and exercise them to your full adantage

    It says no vehicle modifications which require a engineers certificate
    Ie if you had a 92 eg si for example with a d16a8 DOHC non vtec, swapping to a b16a should not need a engineers cert as you have not increased the displacement but 10% and you ahvent gone from single to twin cam, or carby to efi
    The guy that engineered my car told me that if you swap an Engine, it had to be engineered. Even if it's the same type of engine, cos the engine numbers change.

    But if this rule is in place, then you can put NSX brakes on a EK, and it would be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eg5civic View Post
    Read the rules carefully and exercise them to your full adantage

    It says no vehicle modifications which require a engineers certificate
    Ie if you had a 92 eg si for example with a d16a8 DOHC non vtec, swapping to a b16a should not need a engineers cert as you have not increased the displacement but 10% and you ahvent gone from single to twin cam, or carby to efi



    read the laws specifically and make sure u understand it.. coz lots of ppl just read it n think they get the jist n then complain how shit it is
    ...

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    National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction & Modification.

    Bookmark it. Read it.

    Just to clear up a few things for people.

    Engine Replacement
    You can replace your engine with a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine of the same type. Also an equivalent factory optioned engine for that model, with out the need for certification.

    Performance Engines
    Fitting of a replacement engine with more than 20% greater weight and/or power output than the engine offered by the manufacturer as a standard or optional engine requires certification.



    As EG Civic's weren't constructed in Aus with a B-series engine, legally you need a mod plate to put one in. Therefore legally no, P-platers aren't allowed to have one.

    Yes you may get away with it for a while, but there is a very good chance that a cop will take 1 look at it and tell you to start making calls for someone to come pick you up. With the introduction of the new P-plate vehicle power restrictions a lot more cops are being taught what cars/engines you are and aren't allowed to drive. So having a big "DOHC VTEC" embossed on a rocker cover kinda gives it away...

    Quote Originally Posted by PHM91 View Post
    should be 200 and under
    $200 for the VRS kit if you're lucky. All up it will cost over $1000 for a head gasket replacement. Expect more if you've warped your head and need it machined.


    Oh and to the OP, vtec isn't a form of forced induction, it's just honda's form of variable valve timing (and lift control). Most modern cars have VVT. Honda's is just more advanced than most. So it's not illegal for you to drive a vtec honda. It's just illegal for you to dive an engine swapped one if it didn't come factory with one.
    Last edited by 02gzm; 24-04-2009 at 10:18 PM.

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    with regards to no more than 20% greater weight. I have a d16y4 in my ek atm, would i legally be able to run a b18c in it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by 02gzm View Post
    Engine Replacement
    You can replace your engine with a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine of the same type. Also an equivalent factory optioned engine for that model, with out the need for certification.

    Performance Engines
    Fitting of a replacement engine with more than 20% greater weight and/or power output than the engine offered by the manufacturer as a standard or optional engine requires certification.
    Quote Originally Posted by jks24 View Post
    with regards to no more than 20% greater weight. I have a d16y4 in my ek atm, would i legally be able to run a b18c in it??
    I'm sorry but EK's were not offered B18C's as an equivalent factory optioned engine. I'd think that if you wanted a B18C in your EK1, you'd require an engineer's certificate. This is based on my reading as all
    Last edited by eeKayFouR; 25-04-2009 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eeKayFouR View Post
    I'm sorry but EK's were not offered B18C's as standard or optional motors.
    yeh didnt think i could do a conversion, ahhh p plate laws. Oh well it means i have to get a dc2r then, actually not a bad thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jks24 View Post
    with regards to no more than 20% greater weight. I have a d16y4 in my ek atm, would i legally be able to run a b18c in it??
    Hahaha I didn't read your post properly first time round. Disregard what I said even though it's true that the EK's were not offered the B18C. Anyway, I have no idea if the B18C is no more than 20% in weight soz

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    Quote Originally Posted by jks24 View Post
    yeh didnt think i could do a conversion, ahhh p plate laws. Oh well it means i have to get a dc2r then, actually not a bad thing
    Oh so you're still p-plater then yeh B18C into your EK1 is a no go zone for us

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