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what you have said is basically like saying "well noones ever put a turbo on my specific car, make, model etc, therefore its unreasonable to say a turbo would make it faster". fuel systems do not differ from car to car as much as you obviously think they do.
ahh no I dont think my comment was like that all I am saying is they might be slightly different in there thinking.
I was just commenting on what the cars instruments were indicating.
there is nothing super special about your subaru
Perhaps you have never owned one to experience it
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 Originally Posted by Mr_will
true, but 1st is the hardest to rev match into, and many n00bs will find themselves doing just as much harm to their sychros due to over/under revving whilst trying this
im pretty sure this doesnt work with all trannies. even double clutching.
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Thanks 80057,
Answer to your question, I don’t ride the clutch. If I’m coasting to the lights and it goes green, I put it in a low gear, rev the engine a little for easy gear engagement. Most of the time, I manage to put in 3rd fairly easily without reving and take off at the lights. My 92 Civic isn’t fuel injected; I recently (12 months ago) rebuild the engine, but did not rebuild the gearbox. So I was wondering if my driving habit shortens the life of it.
The reason I put on neutral is because I feel more comfortable breaking slowing with the breaks rather changing to lower gear and may cause the car to jerk. And sometimes I just like to coast without the engine noise. Call me a fool, but sometimes, I like to listen to my car when I’m driving.
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 Originally Posted by EK4R
im pretty sure this doesnt work with all trannies. even double clutching.
it will work with any manual transmission that has sycnchros - which is basically all manual transmissions.
chances are if you think it doesnt work, you arent having success matching the revs.
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 Originally Posted by DamienS
I have read this thread and dont agree that you use less fuel in gear than you do in neutral. My 06 Subaru Liberty I owned had a trip computer that also measured instantaneous fuel use, whilst coasting down hills even in fifth you were still using a few litres per 100k's , where as if I had it in neutral down the same hill, it was using less than 1 litre per 100k's just keeping the engine idling.
Depends how/where ure trip computer gets its info from. If its only using VAC, then thats why its giving you those reading.
On this note, an auto VS commo, when put in first down a hill will read its trip computer as 0.0L/100km
A little test you could try, only in a manual:
1. find a nice long hill
2. put it an a gear and coast down the hill
3. Turn your car off and listen for a change in engine note.
If there is, it means when u turned off your car, injectors went off, thus ur car DOESNT save fuel.
If there isnt a change, it means your engine had ALREADY stopped fuel to save it.
To all those worried bout the dangers, ONLY DO THIS IN A MANUAL, your brakes WILL still work, as there still is vacuum and there WILL be power steering as that operated by a belt
Also, chances are a CARBY engine wont save petrol
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 Originally Posted by Gunter
Thanks 80057,
Answer to your question, I don’t ride the clutch. If I’m coasting to the lights and it goes green, I put it in a low gear, rev the engine a little for easy gear engagement. Most of the time, I manage to put in 3rd fairly easily without reving and take off at the lights. My 92 Civic isn’t fuel injected; I recently (12 months ago) rebuild the engine, but did not rebuild the gearbox. So I was wondering if my driving habit shortens the life of it.
The reason I put on neutral is because I feel more comfortable breaking slowing with the breaks rather changing to lower gear and may cause the car to jerk. And sometimes I just like to coast without the engine noise. Call me a fool, but sometimes, I like to listen to my car when I’m driving.
seems ppl are going alittle off course here, but anyway,
if your more comftable with it in neutral do it, everyone has a different driving style, and you are right about sometimes being jerky, especially in second gear, do drive how u want its your car, no issues with the gear box, only the clutch if the take off isnt smooth, everyones happy medium being jerk and to much clutch riding is different to, so its all opinion i think. have fun cruisin.
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i was refering to the power output of the engine at higher revs to assist braking force, rather than the transmission being a load on the engine to slow you down.
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