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  1. #181
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    Replace the spring with a rubber band

    My EG Civic had the same clutch creak problem, must be a common Honda design flaw.
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  2. #182
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    My clutch creak came back today. Contemplating whether to send it to the dealer to replace the MC or to lube it up again.
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  3. #183
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    MC.. while the last year of warranty lasts

    that's what im trying to do..
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  4. #184
    Aaron, even if you get the MC changed the problem is likely to come back because it seems to be a design fault. IN the first 10 minutes of driving mine feels fine that it goes creaky again after the problem was not present for about a year.

    I've been trying to research some alternative options... MC's from other cars or maybe even something like this C5 vette owner did

    http://tradezone.com/vette/clutchmaster.html

    basically used a brake master cylinder from AP racing and modified/connected it to work as the clutch master cylinder instead.

    I've really had enough of the MC creak.. there must be a more stable long term solution out there somewhere...

  5. #185
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    The AP racing unit is nice, but overkill for our light street clutch setup. A better idea would be to get a master cylinder from another car with the same master cylinder dimensions, but without the creak. I think Honda's master cylinders are made by nissin?
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  6. #186
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_F View Post
    Aaron, even if you get the MC changed the problem is likely to come back because it seems to be a design fault.
    I wonder whether replacing the MC is the right fix if the problem re-appears so often. It doesn't make much sense.

    There are owners out there (me included) that have never had this problem after 3 years of ownership. Clutch makes some noise but doesn't feel abnormal. Could this be some other component the dealers are missing that could be contributing to the issue?
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  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    The AP racing unit is nice, but overkill for our light street clutch setup. A better idea would be to get a master cylinder from another car with the same master cylinder dimensions, but without the creak. I think Honda's master cylinders are made by nissin?
    good point, if its overkill in the more reliable/non-creaking way though, I'm all for it. I like the idea of going a non-honda oem master cylinder so I might look into that as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by yfin View Post
    I wonder whether replacing the MC is the right fix if the problem re-appears so often. It doesn't make much sense.

    There are owners out there (me included) that have never had this problem after 3 years of ownership. Clutch makes some noise but doesn't feel abnormal. Could this be some other component the dealers are missing that could be contributing to the issue?
    Hmm... When i was reading about replacing the MC they say a slave cylinder change is also recommended (to be done at the same time)... I doubt the slave would be causing the problem but maybe the whole assembly should be changed to completely eliminate the problem. I'd be willing to try something like the AP racing or a good OEM unit to fix this problem... I'm jealous that you don't have the creak, it can really become irritating on long drives.


    On a side note - has anyone bled and changed the clutch fluid in an attempt to fix this problem? Maybe water vapour/air is getting into the system some how?

  8. #188
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_F View Post
    good point, if its overkill in the more reliable/non-creaking way though, I'm all for it. I like the idea of going a non-honda oem master cylinder so I might look into that as well.

    On a side note - has anyone bled and changed the clutch fluid in an attempt to fix this problem? Maybe water vapour/air is getting into the system some how?
    How much would an AP racing master cylinder cost though? I reckon upwards of $500?

    I haven't tried bleeding it.
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  9. #189
    I'll find out how much they go for...

    I might try changing the clutch fluid sometime soon and see if that helps. I find it strange that the creaking only starts happening when the engine is warm... about 10-20 minutes. Yours happens the same way Aaron?

  10. #190
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_F View Post
    I'll find out how much they go for...

    I might try changing the clutch fluid sometime soon and see if that helps. I find it strange that the creaking only starts happening when the engine is warm... about 10-20 minutes. Yours happens the same way Aaron?
    It comes out after 20 minutes of driving. If I leave it to idle for 10 minutes, it still takes 20 minutes of driving to appear. I last bled my clutch in April btw.

    Let me know about the price as well. I have less than 1 year of warranty left, so info on a proper solution would be helpful.
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  11. #191
    hmm, sounds slightly different to mine which basically comes out when the car warms up.

    Ill ask look around for traders/shops that can get AP racing products and see if i can turn anything up. It'd be great if honda released a revised design for the MC before yuor warranty up :P

  12. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_F View Post
    hmm, sounds slightly different to mine which basically comes out when the car warms up.

    Ill ask look around for traders/shops that can get AP racing products and see if i can turn anything up. It'd be great if honda released a revised design for the MC before yuor warranty up :P
    I'm pretty sure they won't.... Hondas from the late 90s also had the same problem and they never solved the problem.
    Last edited by aaronng; 02-01-2007 at 11:23 PM.
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