[Euro] Hard Starting Problem

[Monty77]

Ours also had the 'longer than usual' start, but only once when it had about 1500k's on it. Hasn't happened again so far after 2800k's. This occurred on a hot day, after parking the car for about an hour. It started normally after a 'key off... on...wait... then try again.' We previously came from a 99 Wrx, and yep....seems like you wait forever for those to start.

Sob...sob...I still miss the rex.........

[sendok]

[QUOTE=EuroDude;1032681]warm start, cold start, warm up, no warm up, hot, cold, hail, and shine, the euro is always hard to start.

hmm... how long is be? i'm wondering what is the ideal time for start.. how many sec? i'm afraid mine also hard to start..

[EuroDude]

hmm... how long is be? i'm wondering what is the ideal time for start.. how many sec? i'm afraid mine also hard to start..

Well each crank is something like 400ms, and the Euro takes at least 4 cranks to start, so:

Min 4 cranks = 1600ms
Avg 5 cranks = 2000ms
Max 7 cranks = 2800ms (this is rare, but sometimes the engine almost stalls and finally starts up at very low revs)

compared to say a Jazz which typically takes only 1 crank = 400ms

It has always started up though, ive never had to turn the key again.


The new Civic has a K20A3 yeah? I wander if that also has the long/hard start problem

[ok2]

Yes, mine (a 2006 Std manual all stock) takes 4-5 turns of the crank to start. I usually let the fuel pump prime the pressure that but that does not seem to make any difference.

Last Saturday was walking past a 2006 Lux in a car park and it started really quickly like it was only 1 turn of the crank ! It looked totally standard so don't know if they had done anything special or were just "lucky".

Now my old 88 Civic (not fuel injected) would catch after 0.5-1 turns which was great. I' ve seen various explanations that characteristics of the car i.e.

- high compression
- long throw crank
- fuel injection
- weak battery

all cause this. Just find it odd that it otherwise nicely engineered car "struggles" to start.

[EuroDude]

^ mine has started in just one crank once, I think it was after I turned the engine off while the revs were still high or something lol

99% of the time it takes 4-5 cranks though

[80057]

i think someone said it before, and my lux is the same, after i let it go through the checks (and the other thing left is the selt belt light) it starts straight away 1or 2 cranks. but after a drive and a ten minute or so stop, it takes 4-5 cranks..wierd as euro dude said rarely i get the more the 5 crank almost stalling low rev start,

[tony1234]

I think the battery could have something to do with it.i think it's only 300CAA.You can get batteries with higher CAA with the same footprint.This may eliminate or reduce this problem.

[Pumped]

Optima is not shipping anymore D51Rs though.... an alternative is the larger red top 35R. It'll fit if you remove the bottom battery tray and flip around the battery securing piece.

The Yellow Top D75 (650cca) Optima fits with very minor changes



Has anyone ever had theres actually stall when trying to start it?
mine seems like its going to sometimes but ive never had it not start

[EuroDude]

i think someone said it before, and my lux is the same, after i let it go through the checks (and the other thing left is the selt belt light) it starts straight away 1or 2 cranks. but after a drive and a ten minute or so stop, it takes 4-5 cranks..wierd as euro dude said rarely i get the more the 5 crank almost stalling low rev start,

This morning my euro started in just one crank, I think it depends on where the position the engine is rotated at when the engine is turned off.
I always wait for the fuel to prime before starting, but it still delays 4-5 cranks most of the time.

[sendok]

i guess 4-5 crank should be consider as a standard time? my euro also around 4-5 atm i try.

[drezy]

as of late my euro has been fairly random... generally in the mornings starting the engine cold can be anywhere from 6-10 cranks...!! when its warmer its 4-5 cranks... i have a feeling it may be my battery... will have to upgrade to a 650CCA one instead of the stock 300CCA...

[blk05gli]

my experience - 4-5 in the mornings everyday, during the day - 4-8 especially on hot days. I am a sales rep so my car gets started very often - approx 8-10 times p/day.