Mugen Airbox

**TypeG** · 04-03-2007 05:23 PM

Finally get it installed... partly as the air duct thing can only bolt on with stock bumper so I will need to ask someone to make a custom mount to mount the duct in place.

Compare to injec, stock and mugen, Injen feels like it lags down low due to their length but provide more peak power gain. Mugen in the other hand is very responsive till redline but may not as much power up top which is really what I am after. Also there is no heat/water problem like CAI/SRI. Mugen as well a lot quite when vtec kick in. The quality is like an art which is no complain.... it may just look like a normal airbox with air direct thing but i believe it is not really as easy as what you guys going to DIY or even a proper DIY with the help from a dyno unless u can run a dyno in a wind tunnel.

At the end of the day, Mugen is not chasing just for top power like what those US things are.

VID... is fairly useless as it is really quite.... a lot quiter than what i expect but it is what I want as well =)

Pix coming soon

**yfin** · 04-03-2007 05:39 PM

The Mugen is pretty darn expensive Type G. For $1k I think the Gruppe M is better value as you are getting more surface area out of the filter they use

**aaronng** · 04-03-2007 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by yfin

The Mugen is pretty darn expensive Type G. For $1k I think the Gruppe M is better value as you are getting more surface area out of the filter they use

I think the mugen is for those who can't stand the noise of the Gruppe M.

**sodaz** · 04-03-2007 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by yfin

The Mugen is pretty darn expensive Type G. For $1k I think the Gruppe M is better value as you are getting more surface area out of the filter they use

The power band of the two intakes are quite different. The Mugen provides more low to mid power whereas the Gruppe M focuses more on the top end. It's hard to say which one is better value. Mugen's kit might be more expensive but at the same time you get more stuff.

**yfin** · 04-03-2007 06:23 PM

Type G - how big is the panel filter for the Mugen? It looks smaller than stock.

**TypeG** · 04-03-2007 06:34 PM

it is not about the size of the filter itself since larger the filter not equal to the more air you can suck in at a given time as the pipe size is the same. Actually, it just like a stock airbox but the inside is design for the best airflow.
yeah it is pretty hard to compare with Gruppe M as Mugen is more into response on every rpm.
it is a bit pricy but injec is just not really should my driving style =)

**sodaz** · 04-03-2007 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by TypeG

yeah it is pretty hard to compare with Gruppe M as Mugen is more into response on every rpm.

I drove my mate's car that has the mugen quite a few times and that's the same feeling i got. Smooth and quick response throughout the rev range. I've got the comptech icebox and the mugen revs faster and smoother with more power. It also sounds a lot better in comparison.

Size wise it's between the stock and comptech icebox.

**Chris_F** · 04-03-2007 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

I think the mugen is for those who can't stand the noise of the Gruppe M.

lol i didn't think it was that loud.

The gruppeM doesn't use the biggest pod filter around but it's an interesting design with a wide stainless steel dome on the outside of the filter and a thinner and sharper cone on the inner side - combined with the smooth shape of the heat shield it's meant to smoothen airflow.

I think on a euro with a standard ecu the difference in performance between the two would be negligible. It's hard to say which design would work the best once tuned though - I was impressed by the gruppeM design which is why i went for it.

and besides panel filters sound boring haha

**aaronng** · 04-03-2007 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by Chris_F

lol i didn't think it was that loud.

The gruppeM doesn't use the biggest pod filter around but it's an interesting design with a wide stainless steel dome on the outside of the filter and a thinner and sharper cone on the inner side - combined with the smooth shape of the heat shield it's meant to smoothen airflow.

I think on a euro with a standard ecu the difference in performance between the two would be negligible. It's hard to say which design would work the best once tuned though - I was impressed by the gruppeM design which is why i went for it.

and besides panel filters sound boring haha

I thought the gruppeM used a standard K&N pod.

**Chris_F** · 04-03-2007 07:20 PM

nope, it's a unique design specified by gruppeM (made by K&N)

you can see the wide dome on the outside... on the inside there is a thinner sharper dome

the gruppeM kit comes with quite a few pieces to adapt the extra wide base of the pod as seen in the pics. it also comes with a stay bracket for the cl7/cl9 application

**as001** · 04-03-2007 07:37 PM

The Gruppe M rules for looks and compromise

The Mugen kit is too close to ice box setup but hey if you got the cash more power to ya

**aaronng** · 04-03-2007 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chris_F

nope, it's a unique design specified by gruppeM (made by K&N)

you can see the wide dome on the outside... on the inside there is a thinner sharper dome

the gruppeM kit comes with quite a few pieces to adapt the extra wide base of the pod as seen in the pics. it also comes with a stay bracket for the cl7/cl9 application

Ahhh, then the gruppeM probably has very small surface area...