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 Originally Posted by mr747
what ever has the most power  yourself?
Yep.Stage 4.FTW!
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Same here! Stage 4 all the way. I just wish they would release a little more info just to tantalise us more, it’s slipping further back in my mind. Never the less it should be worth the wait...I hope.
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RIP - 03 SSM Euro
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Some magazine said the new Year 2016 Euro Accord is coming out next month.
So are we going to get our MY05 Hondata release yet?
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 Originally Posted by ENVSSS
Same here! Stage 4 all the way. I just wish they would release a little more info just to tantalise us more, it’s slipping further back in my mind. Never the less it should be worth the wait...I hope. 
You guys wanting the whole package - you are not bothered by the potential cost of it? I know the exact price has not been released but we have been given a rough idea.
I am not so sure about the whole package now. The reflash sounds like good value and I will probably lean towards that without any bolt ons. The bolt ons, flash, and install all add up.
There are quite a few alternative vehicles on the market now that will spank even the top version reflash with bolt ons at the same entry point as the Euro. I wonder whether it is just better putting the almost $5000 towards a different car (prob not now but in a year or two).
I also have high hopes for the replacement Euro being turbo and SH-AWD I am losing interest in this a little. Anyone else having second thoughts?
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Yep me too. I am hanging on to my 05 euro, only got 28 000kms on it. I have a 07 CRV Lux coming this friday.
Im wanting the full Hondata package but Id get a very nice trade on my euro at the moment and add $5000 to that and im thinking S2000 mmmm or something turbo stock...
I went to the modded XR5 Turbo with Mods - the dark side.....BOOOOST!
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I'm thinking along the same lines as YFIN.
I'm quite certain I won't mod my Euro now. I'll rather spend the extra money on another car. A Renault Megane Sports for example... that car is just crazy fast around corners - what Civic Type R? lol.
Or the alternative is I'll get the latest Euro Accord and hope that next time around the mods will arrive sooner.
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to all the guys thats modding the euro, i guess you could say im a "veteran" now since ive been there, done that with my car and now that its back to stock and now that ive sold all the parts that i had on it (hahaha "veteran" maks me sound old...)
IMO, (and this is just my opinion), dont bother with engine mods, with hondata or anything like that with the euro. I say just go for a nice kit, rims, and a bit of lowering and maybe MAYBE an exhaust. If not, lowering with spring/shocks and just nice rims would do the trick, unless you want to use the car for tracking purposes....but even then, i dont think doing engine mods to the euro is worth the trouble
the extent of mods as far as engine mods go, personally I would probably put a CAI and leave the internals, ECU and everything else as is. Not even headers or a full catback. For the amount of money you pay for mods on a euro, its not as much bang for buck as you would get with a force inducted car....and even the other mods for the euro like teins, cusco, mugen, etc are expensive compared to other more mainstream cars like the silvias, skylines, RX7's, wrx, evo's etc. (but then again that has partly to do with hondas reputation of jacking up the price 10 fold)
And if i still had the euro (in terms of when my car was back in its former glory ^^), i doubt I would have paid for a full hondata reflash with stage 4 and everything (if it even comes out), just cuz of the fact that it took way too damn long and half of that decision would be out of spite...cuz no offence to peekay or anyone at hondata but seriously, i think i speak for the rest of us when i say it took too bloody long to even get it this far and i'd just have the "cant be fked anymore" attitude. Fair enough peekay gave up his car to be the guinea pig and I have full respect for that, but thats not the issue here. it just took way too damn long....and even STILL we dont know the exact pricing for it. Yeah there seems to be some significant gains from a stock euro but any car that you do engine mods to will more than likely give you gains over its stock form providing the mods are sensible.
I guess true N/A enthusiasts (or purists as i call them) will go ahead and mod a honda or the VTEC engine no matter what anyone says. But for me, i would rather spend 5K on engine mods knowing that my car will put out a significant amount more power than its stock form....
e.g my friend has an R34 GTT and going around wakefield, the turbo blew. Stock turbo, a few engine mods here and there. Before the turbo blew, the car was making around 200kw atw with about 1 bar boost. He spent around 5K for a full turbo upgrade with other bits here and there and it now pulls around 290 at 1 bar and about 330 at 1.2 bar.
my 2c
Last edited by stephen8512; 29-03-2007 at 07:47 AM.
Reason: spelling mistake
Fast and furious? I drive slow and luxurious...
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Gotta agree with Stephen and Yfin also.
I might consider the reflash and maybe CAI (for a good note) but I want to know the fuel consumption details in full first. The full exhaust/headers is way too expensive though.
Certainly rather trade in and get a CTR or turbo car from the word go.
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 Originally Posted by BiLL|z0r
Gotta agree with Stephen and Yfin also.
I might consider the reflash and maybe CAI (for a good note) but I want to know the fuel consumption details in full first. The full exhaust/headers is way too expensive though.
Certainly rather trade in and get a CTR or turbo car from the word go.
I think someone asked Peekay about consumption previously and he said he hasn't seen any adverse difference. I wouldn't let consumption hold you back.
You guys have shored up my opinion on this - will probably go for the base flash only.
Last edited by yfin; 29-03-2007 at 07:15 AM.
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 Originally Posted by stephen8512
e.g my friend has an R34 GTT and going around wakefield, the turbo blew. Stock turbo, a few engine mods here and there. Before the turbo blew, the car was making around 200kw atw with about 1 bar boost. He spent around 5K for a full turbo upgrade with other bits here and there and it now pulls around 290 at 1 bar and about 330 at 1.2 bar.
That is why most of us stick with N/A rather than go forced induction. There is almost no risk of a blown headgasket on the track.
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 Originally Posted by yfin
You guys wanting the whole package - you are not bothered by the potential cost of it? I know the exact price has not been released but we have been given a rough idea.
I am not so sure about the whole package now. The reflash sounds like good value and I will probably lean towards that without any bolt ons. The bolt ons, flash, and install all add up.
There are quite a few alternative vehicles on the market now that will spank even the top version reflash with bolt ons at the same entry point as the Euro. I wonder whether it is just better putting the almost $5000 towards a different car (prob not now but in a year or two).
I also have high hopes for the replacement Euro being turbo and SH-AWD  I am losing interest in this a little. Anyone else having second thoughts?
Mmm.I am having second thoughts, i'll wait and see when it's eventually released i suppose.I've budgeted on approx.4k for stage 4 i don't know how close it'll be to that figure with a group buy.
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