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	For FWD cars, usually the rear toe is set to 1mm toe in on each side. Front is set to 0mm on each side.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by sydteg21   yeah, i definately need more practice, after the wheel alignment , car feels better , but cos i had to go to work afterwards, i didn;t read it at the time , i just told him to set both front and rear toe to zero ,  after i got home, when i read it , the front toe got reduced to almost zero, but the rear toe increased , so the question is that if the back wheel toe will affect ? 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							About time you hit the strip.your mph is real good.
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							jsut dont expect the same mph with a quicker 60ft   
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by BlitZ   jsut dont expect the same mph with a quicker 60ft   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	don;t know if the thoery is right or not , but ben increased the mph when he reduced the 60ft time man
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BlitZ   jsut dont expect the same mph with a quicker 60ft   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	What i'm about to post is a gross oversimplification: V = U + AT
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by claymore   sydteg21 is right on    Any time you get more traction and decreasing your 60 foot times you are putting more of the usable power to the ground giving more performance and that equals more speed not less. And this is in general trap speeds go up and down for many reasons. Provided the initial velocity is the same, in this can 0, a reduction in time spent at a constant rate of acceleration will result in a lower terminal velocity...
 
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					  Originally Posted by BlitZ   jsut dont expect the same mph with a quicker 60ft   Yeah, when I think about it carefully, I think there are two situations, one is applied to your theory and one is applies to my thoery, first one is like you guys said, the wheel just keeps spinning and the car doesn’t move much, therefore the speed will increase in a shorter distance , therefore you get shit 60ft ,high mph.
 Second situation is that car bogs down , then you have to rev from low rpm again, therefore you waist time for bogging down,  that’s basicly what happened to me , cos every time as soon as my tyres got traction , the engine started revving only from 3000rpm which is not really fun,  so I still reckon if I can lower my 60ft time , my mph will go up , that’s just my thought
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by sydteg21   Yeah, when I think about it carefully, I think there are two situations, one is applied to your theory and one is applies to my thoery, first one is like you guys said, the wheel just keeps spinning and the car doesn’t move much, therefore the speed will increase in a shorter distance , therefore you get shit 60ft ,high mph. Second situation is that car bogs down , then you have to rev from low rpm again, therefore you waist time for bogging down,  that’s basicly what happened to me , cos every time as soon as my tyres got traction , the engine started revving only from 3000rpm which is not really fun,  so I still reckon if I can lower my 60ft time , my mph will go up , that’s just my thought
 did you car bog down til like 3k?... just side step the farker at 5k rpm.. not the ebst but u wont bog eheheh
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	Sums it up. There isnt a accurate forumlae to work out the exact 1/4 mile time of a car as too many factors.
		
			
			
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		 Lets work on our launches Jeremy !
 I shoudl easy hit the 13 second STOCK club ehehe. Anyone here joining me ?
 
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
				
					
						
							
	you arent exactly stock man.. oem honda maybe.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by bennjamin   Sums it up. There isnt a accurate forumlae to work out the exact 1/4 mile time of a car as too many factors. Lets work on our launches Jeremy !
 I shoudl easy hit the 13 second STOCK club ehehe. Anyone here joining me ?
 
				
                                       
                                 
				
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	(ITR) stock engine stock exhaust stock intake stock ECU no nothing. I think its going OK.
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by BlitZ   you arent exactly stock man.. oem honda maybe. Run yours "stock" blitz !
   
	
	
		
		
			
				
				
						
						
							
						
				
					
						
							
	I have man.. stock with undersized intake... 2.25 intake arm heheh..
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by bennjamin   (ITR) stock engine stock exhaust stock intake stock ECU no nothing. I think its going OK.  
Run yours "stock" blitz !   14.4  - 2.3 60ft
 Got it tuned and made more power..
 
 Then i wacked on 3" intake... lost it all and worst than stock..
 
 now its stock ecu with stock 3" intake arm.. feels quicker than when it was tuned with the 2.25 intake
 Ill hit it again eheh...
 
 but fark me 14.1 with a trap speed of 99mph.. what was your 60ft?
 thats a high trap speed
 
				
				
				
					
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