Think 4-5 faults for a new car is pretty bad? try TWENTY-SEVEN

[panda[cRx]]

Get a bmw. If you buy a top of the line $$$ car then you expect it to be right. You got a civic expecting it to be of a bmw standard. some of the above problems are just petty imo.

bmw and the prestige brands have just as much quality issues as jap/local manufacturers.... in some cases more

[yourfather]

Here is a list of the problems with the car:

At delivery:
• Creaking boot lid
ok, maybe they should lube it, or check it out
• Grease stain on rear seat
anything could have happened there
• Driver’s door reluctant to close
reluctant? meaning, it didn't want to?

By first 1000km service:
• Brake pedal noise
it's supposed to make a noise when you push it down, its a hydraulic system
• Rattles from both front doors
• Rattle from sunroof when closed from tilt position
• Metallic rattling sound from NSF
• 1 exhaust finisher fell off
easily fixed, tighten it up
• Rattle from instrument cluster
how can you tell its the cluster, its behind plastic.

By 1 year service:
• Rattle from centre console rear storage box
• Centre console rubber stopper discovered missing
• Plastic wrap material protruding from sides of doors
delivery issue maybe,
• Plastic packaging string found loosely attached to undersides of front seats
wondering what packaging string would be doing underneath a seat
• 2 exhaust finishers fell off
• Boot lid trim recall item
not really an "issue" with the car, they just decided to add it, holden commodore owners dont even get one
• Discovered rust and sound protection not applied to front wheel wells as advertised at time of sale
if you paid for rust protection you are pretty stupid, considering that the probability of your car rusting in the streets of sunny salt-free road sydney is pretty minimal (i.e. its only really necessary if you're living in say, Snowville NSW)
• Loud 19th-century kettle whistling noise from front demister
• High-pitched whirring noise from engine bay
might be your motor
• Metal clanging sound from right hand side of engine bay
• Hard tapping sound from front passenger’s seat
• Rattle from passenger-side front airbag

Since 1 year service (6 weeks ago!):
• Air vent control coming apart
• Loud rattle from front-left of cabin
• Passenger’s front door sill trim separating at the rear
• Thumping noises from rear shock absorbers at low speeds
• Ticking noise from front passenger seat
• Centre console storage box lid rattling
• Wind noise form gap in both front weather-strips

What kind of joke is this, seriously? I know for a value-oriented car, some problems are to be expected, but this is off the chart. I dare not even touch the window controls because I know other forum members have had problems with the windows literally popping out of the car.

look man, no denying that there are issues, but a few of the things, it just makes you sound like you're some fussy guy with serious issues.

like,wind noise from gap in both front weather strips.... arent you pushing it to the extreme.

did you get paint protection too?

sure they are f*cken you around, and its not right...

but a piece of string underneath a seat isn't an "issue" its a piece of string. or maybe you just like splitting hairs

[chylld]

nice post, yourfather. for the sake of clarity, i'll go through all of the issues you pointed out in detail. i only gave brief descriptions in my initial post so i don't blame you for misunderstanding.

- Creaking boot lid - REALLY LOUD creaking from the boot lid on the way up
- Grease stain on the rear seat - i tried to get it off myself but couldn't. it was a visible mark that shouldn't have been there, especially since i had ordered leather protection
- Driver's door reluctant to close - you had to literally SLAM it to get it to close, otherwise it would pop back out to the typical ~1cm ajar position.
- Brake pedal noise - the hydraulic system noise does not sound lke a piece of plastic snapping - that's the kind of sound it made. moreover, if it was supposed to make that noise, why did it disappear after Hornsby Honda played around with it?
- 1 exhaust finisher fell off - Hornsby Honda did "just tighten it up"... and then it fell off again later. brilliant fix, that.
- rattle from instrument cluster - this one has evolved to more of a "crackling" sound when the car goes around corners or over undulating surfaces. i'm not sure what your complaint with this one is.
- plastic wrap material protruding from sides of doors - picture an inch of clear plastic wrap protruding from each door between the plastic trim and the metal. trying to pull it off resulted in a small but visible amount of plastic wrapping still stuck in the gap. i paid for a car, not a plastic bag dispenser.
- plastic packaging string under front seats - i'll agree i'm being a bit picky on this one. but should it have been there at time of delivery? no.
- boot lid trim recall item - while i've learnt it is a luxury item overseas, the insult lies in the fact that the hinge covers aren't included. the boot lid trim kit comes with both the trim piece and 2 hinge covers; Honda are just trying to cut costs here by only offering the trim piece, and not offering it at all to VTi customers. moreover, hornsby honda attempted to charge me for this item ($180 or thereabouts)
- rust and sound protection - you are right in that i shouldn't care about the rust protection, i did it for the sound protection. put simply, i bought the accessory on the premise that it would be applied to the wheel wells (as advertised at time of sale by Hornsby Honda) however it was not applied there. this is more of a legal matter than a complaint.
- high-pitched whirring noise from engine bay - this sound is best described as the sound one would hear if there was a yodelling woman in the engine bay. also sounds a bit like when a choir is warming up, as if to act as some kind of warning that i've reached 72kph. (it only happens at around this speed)
- wind noise from the front doors - the wind noise sounds like static and is loud enough to drown out the radio on volume 5. i wouldn't call that "pushing it to the extreme." moreover, honda america has found and published a fix to this (in a may/06 tsb, i don't have the exact tsb# though) but honda australia fobbed me off saying it's irrelevant.

i got paint protection too, yes. while the value isn't that great, it's not bad, and i'm happy with it.

please let me know if you would like me to clarify any of the other points.

[denot]

haha chylld, i think we should arrange a "meeting" to show the guys how bad these faults are? ^_^

[Datuk]

i tried to get honda to fix my faults in my car BUT time after TIME I AM BACK! Just like 2day I am back at my dealership. This is my 8th time!!!!

[Datuk]

My CRV has a better build quality! No problems when I first got it.

[yourfather]

fair enough...

I understand you pay your $$$$ that you expect a certain level of understanding etc...

I mean, my DC2 rattles a bit, and the HRV rattles a bit, but I overlook that stuff because the VX berlina we used to have was even worse. Except I made the stain on the back seat w/ the ex gf.. .erm.... just plz dont be one of those angry guys that goes nuts at a car company because of the speedo or whatever.

There's a guy that is making this huge fuss about how an Echo speedo or Yaris, I forget, is inaccurate... Well, my dc2 one is inaccurate too, and it was when I had oem wheels on it. But I have sat nav and that helps me out.

[gr1d]

that's what i would like Honda to tell me

most of my seat rattles only happened when no one was sitting on it as well. as soon as honda get back to me (they were supposed to call me today, but they didn't...) I'll let you know.

mind you, at the last service i complained of 2 noises from the front seat... they claimed to have taken the seat out, disassembled, reassembled it and put the seat back in, and after that it had 4 rattles... so at this rate the car is actually getting worse...

Thanks...Might look around under the seat before bring it back to dealer...

[gr1d]

i tried to get honda to fix my faults in my car BUT time after TIME I AM BACK! Just like 2day I am back at my dealership. This is my 8th time!!!!

Whats the issue with your one?

[Datuk]

Window tints, OSF noise etc...

[kid_dynamite]

chylld - I don't particularly think that overseas Honda TSB's are relevant for cars sold here, especially if they haven't been reproduced by Honda Australia. Perhaps that's why you are being 'fobbed off' when you refer to them?

FWIW I have an 06 Civic, had a couple of minor issues upon delivery, some took a couple of visits to the dealer to fix, but 9 months on it's perfect. Hopefully you can achieve the same level of satisfaction eventually.

[Zdster]

chylld - I don't particularly think that overseas Honda TSB's are relevant for cars sold here, especially if they haven't been reproduced by Honda Australia. Perhaps that's why you are being 'fobbed off' when you refer to them?

That is the sort of attitude I just dont get. I have seen the same thing happen on other vehicle makes with the same sort of response. The construction method of the vehicle (whether it was made for the Australian market or elsewhere) is exactly the same and in my opinion 99% of the time the fix prescribed in an overseas TSB will work here.