8th Gen Issues - Shame on you Honda

[chylld]

my car is finally fixed now (thread)

interestingly the airbag wasn't installed properly at the factory, which was the cause of one of the most annoying rattles. certainly worth getting that one checked out.

[chockz]

Hmm...

somewhere in the post, said that the 8th Gen Civics were made in Thailand...
i have one back in singapore (similiar to civic sport but it's called Si back home) that's made in japan...true false?

anyway, i feel that the major problems with the 8th Gen besides those stated, the windscreen's frame is too big and it blocks ur view...
and...u're driving a ball...

did anyone realize the steering wheel looks like a Fallopian tube, and the auto shift knob looks like a *ahem* di*k head...

talk abt ergonomics...

chock

[LXRY]

my car is finally fixed now (thread)

interestingly the airbag wasn't installed properly at the factory, which was the cause of one of the most annoying rattles. certainly worth getting that one checked out.

Good to hear you problems solved

[Datuk]

Build quality is lacking forsure!

[buddah51au]

After reading this complete thread i have not seen 1 listing of a serious problem, they are just minor glitches that can happen with any new vehicle. Not 1 Engine or Gearbox related issue.
1 problem everyone complains about is the sticky power windows, to me this is a maintanance issue that owners should be taking care of. The rubber window channels tend to dry out due to rain...washing cars......being out in the weather....etc. How hard is it for people to have a can of silicon spray in their shed....every few months just wind the windows down & give the rubber channels a spray.....end of issue....no more problems....part of the normal upkeep of a car.
As for being buit in Thailand......a non issue these days. How about the 3 series BMW being built in South Africa, or Mercedes having some of their auto transmissions built in the Philippines.
As a value for money car i dont believe the civic can be beaten....cheap purchase price.....great resale value.....excellent reliability & fuel consumption....i dont know of another car in this class that could average 7.06L/100km over 22,000km.....i still find the ecconomy hard to believe.
For you people who think you have a few problems try buying a new Commodore or Falcon & see how you go. I have yet to hear of any Honda having the engine replaced after 1200 kms

[buddah51au]

Let me add to my last posting by saying that while i believe the Civic to be a very good vehicle over all there are 2 problems in my view that are serious safety flaws.
1. The blind spot caused by the A Pillars is extreemly bad, and it is a design problem that cant be easily overcome. But i also believe it is a problem that will find its way into other vehicles as manufacturers strive to meet new crash worthiness laws.
2. Headlights...very poor range....high beam is good for approximately 100 meters. I eventually overcame this problem by fitting a pair of Lightforce "170" Driving Lights. I can now see at night, however i believe it distracts from the look of the car.

[denot]

1 problem everyone complains about is the sticky power windows, to me this is a maintanance issue that owners should be taking care of. The rubber window channels tend to dry out due to rain...washing cars......being out in the weather....etc. How hard is it for people to have a can of silicon spray in their shed....every few months just wind the windows down & give the rubber channels a spray.....end of issue....no more problems....part of the normal upkeep of a car.

Well.. we dont have to do this with most of other car (and previous model of Civics) that cost us $35K...

[chylld]

buddah51au i assume u haven't read through my problems list then. my car had numerous serious problems such as an improperly installed airbag, an unstable passenger seat (the whole frame of which was found faulty and had to be replaced), a faulty engine mount and a driver's door that wouldn't close properly. i also wouldn't call having to stop the car and walking 20 metres back up the road to pick up the exhaust finishers that fell off "routine maintenance."

that said i do agree with your comments on the a-pillars and headlights, although the former being a little too fat and the latter being a little too dim pale in comparison to some of the problems i and some other owners have had.

Well.. we dont have to do this with most of other car (and previous model of Civics) that cost us $35K...

heck... you don't even need to do this on a car that costs half that much.

[buddah51au]

Well.. we dont have to do this with most of other car (and previous model of Civics) that cost us $35K...

I can assure you that this has been done during regular workshop service for the last 39 years i have been a mechanic. Obviously poer windows havn't been around that long but it was still an issue on several models with lubricating manual window guides. The current move from felt guides to rubber guides has many benefits, but the downside is they need to be lubricated.....occasionally

[buddah51au]

[QUOTE=chylld;1260340]buddah51au i assume u haven't read through my problems list then. my car had numerous serious problems such as an improperly installed airbag, an unstable passenger seat (the whole frame of which was found faulty and had to be replaced), a faulty engine mount and a driver's door that wouldn't close properly. i also wouldn't call having to stop the car and walking 20 metres back up the road to pick up the exhaust finishers that fell off "routine maintenance."

that said i do agree with your comments on the a-pillars and headlights, although the former being a little too fat and the latter being a little too dim pale in comparison to some of the problems i and some other owners have had.



heck... you don't even need to do this on a car that costs half that much.

Listing a chrome exhaust finisher falling off as a serious problem is just

a minor adjustment of the door strker plate

improper installation of an air bag??? how could anyone pass that comment unless an aibag failed to deploy when needed......if that happened there would be many major problems

a seat frame & engine mount.....ok.....a headache but still not a serious problem

[chylld]

i find your opinions quite amusing; nonetheless, you are entitled to them

with all things said and done though, it all boils down to what constitutes a warranty issue that Honda Australia is willing to fix, and what is not. improperly installed airbags, faulty engine mounts and unstable seat frames were all admitted to me by a honda district manager as valid reasons for concern for the safety of the vehicle, and were fixed under warranty as such, along with the other real problems that i had such as the aforementioned parts falling off onto the road.

i'd like to see what honda's response to your "my a-pillars are too thick" and "my headlights are too dim" complaints would be!

[buddah51au]

i find your opinions quite amusing; nonetheless, you are entitled to them

with all things said and done though, it all boils down to what constitutes a warranty issue that Honda Australia is willing to fix, and what is not. improperly installed airbags, faulty engine mounts and unstable seat frames were all admitted to me by a honda district manager as valid reasons for concern for the safety of the vehicle, and were fixed under warranty as such, along with the other real problems that i had such as the aforementioned parts falling off onto the road.

i'd like to see what honda's response to your "my a-pillars are too thick" and "my headlights are too dim" complaints would be!

there is no such thing as a perfect car and i new about those 2 issues prior to buying it. 1 problem easily solved as well.

some people in this world could spemd several hundred thousand dollars on a new rolls royce and still not be happy, let alone $30,000 on a basic reliable everyday car and expect it to be the equivelent of the rolls.

i have now had 3 hondas and over 1,000,000km without a major problem. not too many vehicle brands could do that