[Euro] Hondata Update

[r-r-redEuro]

lol id say about 3G ? hmm so the hondata would be cheaper.. how cheaper ? or is that the question everyone is asking ?

[aaronng]

lol id say about 3G ? hmm so the hondata would be cheaper.. how cheaper ? or is that the question everyone is asking ?

If you dig up the old thread, the I/H/E + hondata package was about 4k+. That was a long time ago. Not sure about the price now.

Hmm, Toda headers ($1400ish), K&N CAI ($400ish), BC catback ($1000), highflow cat ($400), ECU+tuning ($1000ish). No where near $3k man....

[sodaz]

If you dig up the old thread, the I/H/E + hondata package was about 4k+. That was a long time ago. Not sure about the price now.

Hmm, Toda headers ($1400ish), K&N CAI ($400ish), BC catback ($1000), highflow cat ($400), ECU+tuning ($1000ish). No where near $3k man....

I'm guessing at least $4.5k for I/H/E + ECU. Considering how long it's taking them to release it since they announced it, I'm kind of worried how long it will take them to fix problems if there are any.

[aaronng]

I'm guessing at least $4.5k for I/H/E + ECU. Considering how long it's taking them to release it since they announced it, I'm kind of worried how long it will take them to fix problems if there are any.

What problems do you expect to encounter? From their updates, the fit and finish should be perfect since they have been rejecting any substandard samples from their manufacturer. The ECU reflash itself works fine, it is only the tuning that is the biggest question. Will it ping when the 40ºC summer arrives?

[sodaz]

What problems do you expect to encounter? From their updates, the fit and finish should be perfect since they have been rejecting any substandard samples from their manufacturer. The ECU reflash itself works fine, it is only the tuning that is the biggest question. Will it ping when the 40ºC summer arrives?

Regarding the bolt-ons it's hard to tell until it's actually released. Even big companies like DC Sports and Comptech have problems with their products and they have a much bigger R&D and manufacturing budget. I'm not sure what problems can occur with the ECU but as far as i know they have only tested their products and software on 1 car in Australia. I'm just not too confident at this point, but we'll see...

[tony1234]

For the JTUNE(Hondata)I/H/E+reflash group buy=$4k+tuning which i think will be approx.$300.It's definitely the way to go if you want extra kw.from your car.Personally i wouldn't mess around with anything else.

[hengis]

sounds nice..if its less than 1k im in lol.
btw hengis, is urs night black hawk with mugen kit and works cr kai?

yes it is

[hengis]

If you dig up the old thread, the I/H/E + hondata package was about 4k+. That was a long time ago. Not sure about the price now.

Hmm, Toda headers ($1400ish), K&N CAI ($400ish), BC catback ($1000), highflow cat ($400), ECU+tuning ($1000ish). No where near $3k man....

1) much respect to you aaronng, but I would like to see you get your ECU and tuning done for your k24a for $1000 right now.
2) the total cost of your calculation adds up to $4200.....

I don't want to dwelve into pricing cuz its not my area as far as Hondata is concerned, but my set up so far:

injen intake: 450 shipped
greddy exhaust: 1350 shipped
metal cat: 500 shipped and flanges welded
headers: 360 shipped
and vafc + tuning: 650
= $3300

if I had toda headers, add another $1000 to that figure.
these don't even include fitting costs.

for that much money, the gains aren't worth it. I can live with that fact cuz its an N/A engine.

Even if the whole HONDATA setup was for 5k, I can tell you the power figures would be well worth that value.

[aaronng]

1) much respect to you aaronng, but I would like to see you get your ECU and tuning done for your k24a for $1000 right now.
2) the total cost of your calculation adds up to $4200.....

I don't want to dwelve into pricing cuz its not my area as far as Hondata is concerned, but my set up so far:

injen intake: 450 shipped
greddy exhaust: 1350 shipped
metal cat: 500 shipped and flanges welded
headers: 360 shipped
and vafc + tuning: 650
= $3300

if I had toda headers, add another $1000 to that figure.
these don't even include fitting costs.

for that much money, the gains aren't worth it. I can live with that fact cuz its an N/A engine.

Even if the whole HONDATA setup was for 5k, I can tell you the power figures would be well worth that value.

Are you running the china knockoff headers? Also, VAFC does not constitute a proper ECU. That is a piggy back that can only alter fuel trim. It can't even alter ignition timing, let alone the VTC cam timing. Just because of your VAFC, you won't be coming anywhere near the potential power gain of your mods.

A proper stanalone system like the Motec with all the add on modules to support the electronic throttle would come up to about $4k for just the ECU and tuning alone.

[kookie]

Hi Guys,

Not knowing pricing for the JTune package but all I know is that I have seen the product first hand with dyno results and 1/4 mile times to back this up and to be honest you WILL be making power all round with massive increases from mid to high.

Not owning a Euro myself (I have a DC5R) comparing dyno results from the JTune Euro with my dyno sheets. All I can say is it has gone from tame to Wild. I can't disclose any more then this, but for those that are willing to wait you wont be disappointed and will fall in love with your Euro's again.

[BusterSonic12]

just wonderin' does Greddy V-Manage work with our k24? because i saw some ads in auto salon mag saying it can be used for i-vtec but does it support electronic throttle?

[BusterSonic12]

1) much respect to you aaronng, but I would like to see you get your ECU and tuning done for your k24a for $1000 right now.
2) the total cost of your calculation adds up to $4200.....

I don't want to dwelve into pricing cuz its not my area as far as Hondata is concerned, but my set up so far:

injen intake: 450 shipped
greddy exhaust: 1350 shipped
metal cat: 500 shipped and flanges welded
headers: 360 shipped
and vafc + tuning: 650
= $3300

if I had toda headers, add another $1000 to that figure.
these don't even include fitting costs.

for that much money, the gains aren't worth it. I can live with that fact cuz its an N/A engine.

Even if the whole HONDATA setup was for 5k, I can tell you the power figures would be well worth that value.

?? so your just tuning with the vafc WITH the hondata ecu reflash or what?