Wheels Magazine Civic Type R review

[bennjamin]

the higher honda times are due to the meters-above-sea-level. (according to the article). A NA motor works harder the higher up you go The turbo'd engines were not as adversely affected as the lil honda donk.

[gnx1987]

the higher honda times are due to the meters-above-sea-level. (according to the article). A NA motor works harder the higher up you go The turbo'd engines were not as adversely affected as the lil honda donk.

Yeah sounds like your reading out of the june issue and I slightly recall there being a mention of the location of the testing being somewhere pretty high up.

[aaronng]

the higher honda times are due to the meters-above-sea-level. (according to the article). A NA motor works harder the higher up you go The turbo'd engines were not as adversely affected as the lil honda donk.

The Euro was tested at the same location, but at 5ºC instead of 15ºC. The Euro got 7.8s. Eventhough it was 10ºC, it's no excuse for a CTR to have the same acceleration time as a heavier car with less power and narrower rubber.

[sodaz]

With only a high revving 147kw motor in a car that weighs almost as much as the standard Euro, I don't see how Honda can ever fulfill the claimed 6.6sec 0-100km/h time. The Mazda 3 MPS makes 190kw and that does 0-100km/h in around 6.4-6.6 secs. The CTR really needs at least a 160kw motor to be strong player in the competitive hot hatch market today.

[SHIFTY]

i reserve my opinion on honda not telling the truth about the 0-100km/h times till i see it done in one with a worn in engine which is ready for such testing... also i hope they did the test once the oil pressure and everything was correct for the cams 2 change over right...

there are alot of things 2 put in 2 consideration....

also these car journo's are not the best drivers around....

[aaronng]

also these car journo's are not the best drivers around....

I disagree. They have been working for the magazines for years and they get to fang cars around the track and in the 1/4 mile more often than car enthusiasts.

[SHIFTY]

theres a difference between dean evans and other motor journo's... he was a pro race driver... lol

my point was that im sure the ppl they have doing these times in japan (uk in this case) are pro drivers and have been practising with these cars for alot longer and have warn the engine in.. im not saying motor journo's are shit drivers nor am i saying they are race drivers.. just compared 2 the ppl putting down honda's times they would not be as good.. but im not saying that honda did not exaggerate there times..

[aaronng]

my point was that im sure the ppl they have doing these times in japan (uk in this case) are pro drivers and have been practising with these cars for alot longer and have warn the engine in.. im not saying motor journo's are shit drivers nor am i saying they are race drivers.. just compared 2 the ppl putting down honda's times they would not be as good.. but im not saying that honda did not exaggerate there times..

No, I don't think the 6.6 second number is from motoring tests. It's a claimed figure from Honda UK.

[tinkerbell]

i reserve my opinion on honda not telling the truth about the 0-100km/h times till i see it done in one with a worn in engine which is ready for such testing... also i hope they did the test once the oil pressure and everything was correct for the cams 2 change over right...

there are alot of things 2 put in 2 consideration....

also these car journo's are not the best drivers around....

SHIFTY - you might need to google: "power to weight ratio"

it is nothing to do with journos, worn in engines (LOL!) or oil temperature...

these guys have been testing cars since you were born,

they just cant break the laws of physics...

[Ronny]

With only a high revving 147kw motor in a car that weighs almost as much as the standard Euro, I don't see how Honda can ever fulfill the claimed 6.6sec 0-100km/h time. The Mazda 3 MPS makes 190kw and that does 0-100km/h in around 6.4-6.6 secs. The CTR really needs at least a 160kw motor to be strong player in the competitive hot hatch market today.

Let me Correct you. The Mazda MPS3 does 0-100km in 6.1 secs (Mazda Claim) and the car actually can do faster than 6.1 stock. The reason i said this coz 2 of my friends have bought it recently and brought it down to the track with the digital timer. The best time he's done is 5.7671s (which is abit insane for a stock car).

I personnally don't think any of the honda sport cars could compete with that Mazdas' monster unless the car is heavily modified. However, who cares about straight line, 99% of the time we are on the road with shit loads of traffic...handling and luxury are the most important thing.

Better Stragiht line = More chance to get your License suspended :P

[GupZ]

Let me Correct you. The Mazda MPS3 does 0-100km in 6.1 secs (Mazda Claim) and the car actually can do faster than 6.1 stock. The reason i said this coz 2 of my friends have bought it recently and brought it down to the track with the digital timer. The best time he's done is 5.7671s (which is abit insane for a stock car).

I personnally don't think any of the honda sport cars could compete with that Mazdas' monster unless the car is heavily modified. However, who cares about straight line, 99% of the time we are on the road with shit loads of traffic...handling and luxury are the most important thing.

Better Stragiht line = More chance to get your License suspended :P

Totally agree!....
handling and luxury are the most important thing nowadays.


By the way, honestly, i personally do not think FN2 is that slow (7.8 s from what the review said)....although i am owning a FN2 now, i am not trying to convince you guys on how fast it is. Just did a test with my Gfs GTI DSG in a straight line....no way is the GTI could compare with FN2.