Wheels Magazine Civic Type R review

**aaronng** · 26-07-2007 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by bennjamin

Drive a new CTR with earplugs and sunglasses on and aim in a straight line. It will feel like a accord euro

Without earplugs, it'll sound like my car.

**m0nty ITR** · 26-07-2007 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by 350G

This is named a Type R which suppoed to be raw. If you want safety and luxury features, get a Benz or BM.

But Type R wouldn't have a market worth investing here in Australia. This is a compromise and a plan to get more young people into Honda.

**Tofu** · 26-07-2007 08:50 PM

that is Honda's marketing strategy, yes we get it, but there will always be people out there that feel the TypeR name has been tainted.

**PaZzMaN-R** · 26-07-2007 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Tofu

that is Honda's marketing strategy, yes we get it, but there will always be people out there that feel the TypeR name has been tainted.

being the owner of a true type r im one of them. its a sad fact of life but sometimes the things you dont want to change, change the most

**yfin** · 26-07-2007 09:19 PM

Look, I can deal with a refined, smooth, luxury R. But I can't deal with a slow R.

**bennjamin** · 26-07-2007 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Without earplugs, it'll sound like my car with out a hecktik DIY intake

Corrected

**aaronng** · 26-07-2007 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by bennjamin

Corrected

That's one soft CTR!

**Ronny** · 27-07-2007 12:19 PM

1 Word describes the New CTR

"SLOW"

I would definitely go for the MPS3/GTi Golf with that price.

I hope Honda did learn a lesson for releasing this piece of shxt.

**aaronng** · 27-07-2007 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Ronny

1 Word describes the New CTR

"SLOW"

I would definitely go for the MPS3/GTi Golf with that price.

I hope Honda did learn a lesson for releasing this piece of shxt.

Did you test drive the CTR?

**Ronny** · 27-07-2007 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Did you test drive the CTR?

Me and my wife test drove it the other day coz my missus is looking for a smaller car and she reckons the new CTR looks good.

Interior and everything are all good, very fancy/modern design (Thumb up in this category). However the power is a bit weak from stand still to 5000rpm, vtec simply kicks in at about 5xxx + rpm and the response is OKAY. Compare to the MPS3 and GTi (I have test driven both cars), this is definitely not my cup of tea. I understand we shouldn't compare N/A car with Turbo but Honda claimed this thing can reach 100km in 6.6secs. I don't see this thing would get any near to low 7's (It could reach 6.6 if I chuck in shitloads of mods). In conclusion, this CTR is sorta similar to the corolla sportivo. I would say there aren't much different between the two in terms of power. I am not here to cause any trouble with the civic Type R owners but for my personal opinion, Honda was a bit exaggerated about this CTR's performance.

**aaronng** · 27-07-2007 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by Ronny

Me and my wife test drove it the other day coz my missus is looking for a smaller car and she reckons the new CTR looks good.

Interior and everything are all good, very fancy/modern design (Thumb up in this category). However the power is a bit weak from stand still to 5000rpm, vtec simply kicks in at about 5xxx + rpm and the response is OKAY. Compare to the MPS3 and GTi (I have test driven both cars), this is definitely not my cup of tea. I understand we shouldn't compare N/A car with Turbo but Honda claimed this thing can reach 100km in 6.6secs. I don't see this thing would get any near to low 7's (It could reach 6.6 if I chuck in shitloads of mods). In conclusion, this CTR is sorta similar to the corolla sportivo. I would say there aren't much different between the two in terms of power. I am not here to cause any trouble with the civic Type R owners but for my personal opinion, Honda was a bit exaggerated about this CTR's performance.

Yeah, Honda really did exaggerate the performance claims. But the issue with the engine not having anything under 5000rpm is similar for all NA engines with an aggressive highcam. Without a variable lift system, it's even worse like with the cammed 4A-GE engines.

I've driven a Sportivo and I don't think the CTR warrants a comparison to it. The Sportivo's suspension is so shitty that you can feel the nose lifting when you are in 2nd gear, 2000rpm and you just use about 1/4 throttle! That was bad.

Having said all that, if I was after outright power for the straight, I'd take an MPS. But if I wanted an all rounder, it'll be a tossup between the CTR and GTI, with the deciding factor being whether my missus will be driving the car (she can't drive stick). Value-wise, CTR > GTI.

**m0nty ITR** · 27-07-2007 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Having said all that, if I was after outright power for the straight, I'd take an MPS. But if I wanted an all rounder, it'll be a tossup between the CTR and GTI, with the deciding factor being whether my missus will be driving the car (she can't drive stick). Value-wise, CTR > GTI.

So that rules anything that isn't GTI out. Am I right?