Wheels Magazine Civic Type R review

**sitta** · 27-07-2007 11:31 PM

im the owner of a ctr and i admit ! its is not that fast! its is just exiting though, took my friend along and went vtecing and he was so scared, it sounds hell fast over 5000rpm and feels fast but since i've been driving it for quite sometime i know it is not that fast lol but who needs straight line speed? unless you are going for occasional track day, this car is way fast enough for daily driving and you can still kick most ricer's ass all day

**aaronng** · 28-07-2007 01:29 AM

Originally Posted by m0nty ITR

So that rules anything that isn't GTI out. Am I right?

"whether my missus will be driving the car".

She has her own car (Astra) to drive. My Euro is manual, so she doesn't touch it.

**ATSE** · 28-07-2007 10:22 AM

Just to add, my work colleague just got a Golf GTI with DSG... and it probably has the smoothest gear change out of any car I've driven. I haven't test driven the new CTR yet so I can't compare, but i was very impressed with the Golf. And don't forget, with the Golf, it is heavily detuned from the factory, so adding a programmable ECU onto it (eg. APR) will release a shitload of power from it approx 30 to 40kw in stock form.

**m0nty ITR** · 28-07-2007 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by ATSE

Just to add, my work colleague just got a Golf GTI with DSG... and it probably has the smoothest gear change out of any car I've driven. I haven't test driven the new CTR yet so I can't compare, but i was very impressed with the Golf. And don't forget, with the Golf, it is heavily detuned from the factory, so adding a programmable ECU onto it (eg. APR) will release a shitload of power from it approx 30 to 40kw in stock form.

I used to drive one. The APR reflash gave the GTI 192kW and 350nm @ 1750-5500rpm.

Absolutely insane stuff for $1900.

**SHIFTY** · 28-07-2007 10:36 AM

iv said it before and ill say it again.. this is a type s in my books, not a type r... they should rebadge it type s and bring in the real type r (jdm civic type r)..

***n pommy honda wankers, why do u wona do this to the historic type r name!

**Tofu** · 28-07-2007 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by SHIFTY

iv said it before and ill say it again.. this is a type s in my books, not a type r... they should rebadge it type s and bring in the real type r (jdm civic type r)..

***n pommy honda wankers, why do u wona do this to the historic type r name!

LOL this car seems to be getting more "heat" (in a negative way) from alot more people, even owners of the FN2, compared to the 2002 Integra Type R...has Honda made a smart "marketing" decision? Just have to wait till the end of year for a 6 month report I guess.

**SHIFTY** · 28-07-2007 02:57 PM

donno but 2 me all the newer type r's are not real type r's...

dc2r, ek9 and the nsx-r are the real type r's 2 me...

The rest are 2 fat and don not follow the type 'r' meaning of being 'raw'.. how can it be 'raw' if it got fancy dash and fancy that and all and big fat wheels ect... it defies the meaning of the type r... it is sad that honda is almost just throwing the sticker on to these cars... it would make so much more sense 2 be badged a type s... and im not saying because type s is shit, as they are nice 'sports' cars... not raw cars which are (basicly from factory) made for racing...

but then again the question should be... with 2days modern car standards for safety and all that... could honda be aloud 2 make another real type r that is raw like the originals ? i personally doubt it!

they can make fast cars like the jap fd2r but is it really a type r or just a fast car...

**T-onedc2** · 28-07-2007 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by SHIFTY

donno but 2 me all the newer type r's are not real type r's...

dc2r, ek9 and the nsx-r are the real type r's 2 me...

The rest are 2 fat and don not follow the type 'r' meaning of being 'raw'.. how can it be 'raw' if it got fancy dash and fancy that and all and big fat wheels ect... it defies the meaning of the type r... it is sad that honda is almost just throwing the sticker on to these cars... it would make so much more sense 2 be badged a type s... and im not saying because type s is shit, as they are nice 'sports' cars... not raw cars which are (basicly from factory) made for racing...

but then again the question should be... with 2days modern car standards for safety and all that... could honda be aloud 2 make another real type r that is raw like the originals ? i personally doubt it!

Completely agree.
As for safety standards, all they're removing is sound deadening, replacing some parts with lighter (usually stronger) material, and adding reinforcements where necessary, so I guess they just don't think there's a big enough market for the raw cars nowadays.

**aaronng** · 28-07-2007 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by ATSE

Just to add, my work colleague just got a Golf GTI with DSG... and it probably has the smoothest gear change out of any car I've driven. I haven't test driven the new CTR yet so I can't compare, but i was very impressed with the Golf. And don't forget, with the Golf, it is heavily detuned from the factory, so adding a programmable ECU onto it (eg. APR) will release a shitload of power from it approx 30 to 40kw in stock form.

It is not detuned. It is a turbo'd engine with an electronically controlled wastegate. That's why with the ECU reflash, you get much more power. It tells the wastegate to only open up at higher pressure.

**ATSE** · 29-07-2007 10:50 AM

It is still "de-tuned" in my eyes from the factory, as APR would have had to make changes via dyno to create this reflash, as I don't think it would of been as easy as saying "we'll just tell the ecu to open up the wastegate at high pressure". But correction noted and good knowledge aaronng.

**GupZ** · 29-07-2007 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by yfin

The latest Wheels Magazine has a road test of the CTR. The Civic Type R does well and wins the test overall (includes manual Golf GTI).

But the performance figures are very dissapointing for the Civic if you compare to Honda's claim of 6.6 for 0-100kph.

The CTR achieved 0-100 in 7.8 seconds and a quarter of 15.5. Rolling 80-120 was also nothing special at 4.8 seconds.

I know that Honda has a job to do in marketing the Civic but this is WAY off the claimed times. These are Accord Euro times - not Type R times.

Have you ever go to test drive the FN2?..you will know 7.8 seconds 0-100km is not the real case.