We just may get the JDM CTR in Australia.

[industrie]

i say to honda australia bring the the damn car in...hence everyone is satisfied but you expect the car to be less than 50K.

[denot]

Why is the Aurion even compared to the CTR?

If you believe an Aurion SX6 is a "performance car" that could rival a CTR, then marketing at Toyota has done it's job.

Agree with you!!!! How can u compare Aurion with Civic???

Hot Hatch vs Hot Hatch is considered Apples vs Apples.
While a Hot Hatch vs Family Car with bodykit is not.

Put it this way, is a Mercedes E55 vs BMW any less relevant than a Golf GTi vs CTR?

Look beyond just their engine aspiration of choice and you'll see they are designed to compete in the same market.

I believe you cant compare two different car no matter if both of them are N/A or Turbos, 2 doors or 4 doors, hatch or sedan, still an apple is an apple, a civic is a civic, a lancer is a lancer, cant compare one species with diff species

[xtercii]

hahah your theory is funny, maybe in the next olympics 100m sprint we should have asian compete with asian, white compete with white and so on...

[NeoNode]

I believe you cant compare two different car no matter if both of them are N/A or Turbos, 2 doors or 4 doors, hatch or sedan, still an apple is an apple, a civic is a civic, a lancer is a lancer, cant compare one species with diff species

Now you're just being silly, you might as well not compare anything because their names are different.

Here's an example, in your analogy which can't be compared based on "A Civic is a Civic, a Lancer is a Lancer..."

Toyota Aygo, Peugeot 107, Citroen C1.

But because with your analogy a Toyota Aygo is a Toyota Aygo, Peugeot 107 is a Peugeto 107 and a Citroen C1 is a Citroen C1, they can't be compared because you can't compare one species with a different species as you say.

But funnily enough all 3 cars are built by the same factory and share the same DNA underneath, yet are designed to look different, offering customers a choice, yet all 3 cars are targeted at one particular market.
But if I was to purposely leave that last bit of information regarding all three cars being the same underneath with a new skin, you would tell me they can't be compared ayes

[NeoNode]

hahah your theory is funny, maybe in the next olympics 100m sprint we should have asian compete with asian, white compete with white and so on...

Haha Denot's analogy is more like, you have to be identical twins to be even considered Apple vs Apple. LOL!

[denot]

Haha Denot's analogy is more like, you have to be identical twins to be even considered Apple vs Apple. LOL!

I sed "compare" not "compete" why you want to compare between runners @ 100m? I think compare and compete is two diff words dont they? Then again I might just being silly then (like NeoNode sed...)

[NeoNode]

I sed "compare" not "compete" why you want to compare between runners @ 100m? I think compare and compete is two diff words dont they? Then again I might just being silly then (like NeoNode sed...)

Do people not compare cars like they do with athletes to find which/who is better?

CTR vs Golf GTi, Michael Jordan vs Shaq?
In order to to find a winner from a comparison, do cars not compete in races or tests and athletes compete in competitions?

[denot]

Do people not compare cars like they do with athletes to find which/who is better?

CTR vs Golf GTi, Michael Jordan vs Shaq?
In order to to find a winner from a comparison, do cars not compete in races or tests and athletes compete in competitions?

athletes and cars are not compete to find the winner of comparison... then again M.J. is a Guard and Shaq is a Center... can you compare them using your theory?

anyway... after all this out of topic convo, I'm still happy if JDM CTR really comes to Oz... ^_^

[NeoNode]

athletes and cars are not compete to find the winner of comparison... then again M.J. is a Guard and Shaq is a Center... can you compare them using your theory?

anyway... after all this out of topic convo, I'm still happy if JDM CTR really comes to Oz... ^_^

com·pete
to strive to outdo another for acknowledgment, a prize, supremacy, profit, etc.; engage in a contest; vie: to compete in a race; to compete in business.

Now you're telling me to compare two cars does not mean they end up competing?

V8 Supercars comparing Holden against Ford (to compete in a race)

Magazines compare cars all the time, why would they bother with laptimes, 0-100km/h, braking distances etc etc.(engage in a contest)
Aren't these numbers compared across different cars to show who reigns ontop? (to strive to outdo another)

And please, I don't compare things based on a technicality. I see Michael Jordan and Shaq as athletes, likewise I see a CTR and Golf GTi as Hot Hatches, not a CTR is a CTR and a Golf GTi is a Golf GTi.


Here i'll make another example.

There's two athlete runners. Runner A and Runner B
I want to compare Runner A and Runner B against each other to see who is better.
And in order to compare Runner A and Runner B, they'll need to compete in a race of a 100m dash to the finish, how else am I going to know who is better if they don't compete?

If you still don't think Comparing and Competing goes hand in hand most of the time, especially with cars, then I have nothing more to say.

[denot]

And please, I don't compare things based on a technicality. I see Michael Jordan and Shaq as athletes, likewise I see a CTR and Golf GTi as Hot Hatches, not a CTR is a CTR and a Golf GTi is a Golf GTi.

If you compare M.J. and Shaq as athletes, then you compare CTr and Golf as cars or hot hatches or 4 wheelers or items?

[NeoNode]

If you compare M.J. and Shaq as athletes, then you compare CTr and Golf as cars or hot hatches or 4 wheelers or items?

Don't be stubborn man, use common sense!

No shit you don't compare them as "Cars" because it's too general of a word.
So you be more specific and refer to such cars like the CTR and GTi as hot hatches, because they fit the criteria of being a hot hatch.
Ford Falcons, Holden Commodores fit the prerequisite of being family cars, and that's as specific as it needs to be.

You on the other hand, are being too specific, which makes your analogy look silly and absurd.

I believe you cant compare two different car no matter if both of them are N/A or Turbos, 2 doors or 4 doors, hatch or sedan, still an apple is an apple, a civic is a civic, a lancer is a lancer, cant compare one species with diff species

One would compare MJ and Shaq as athletes within the basketball genre if it needs to be more specific, but that's as far as you should go! Common sense would've told you that, instead of sitting there picking out technicalities, save that for the court room.
I could've used Golf, Swimming, anything really for my examples, but I wouldn't go as far as saying they cannot compete because they are not from the same race.

It's all common sense ffs.

[UNLS1]

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