We just may get the JDM CTR in Australia.

[slipangle]

It would be interesting how they will go about specifying FD2R if it arrives. Of course, we wouldn't want it to be diluted in any way, although the fuel issue will definitely be a consideration that will affect the power output.

Other issues I'd imagine would be whether the factory is capable of committing to modifying their production processes to accommodate whether the car will come with/without brembos etc etc for our market. Especially given they aren't producing them fast enough to meet existing demand, how does accomodating AU fit in to the overall scheme of things?. Balance that with what Honda Au's decisions will be on how they would want to price it,...someone may say that it would be acceptable to sell the car without some components (or go cheaper) to keep the cost of the vehicle down?!. There are so many factors in play we'll just have to see how it pans out. One good thing though : It is a good step that the AU CEO has publicly expressed enough of an interest within Honda AU in investigating this opportunity, as, even if nothing comes of it (touch wood!), that someone recognises that there are enthusiasts out there who appreciate what Honda are REALLY capable of producing as an innovative, engineering focused company worthy of our positive awareness with Type R.

If we use the AU DC5R as a history lesson, what has Honda Au learnt about the decisions regarding how this car was presented and what would this mean for how the FD2R could potentially arrive on our shores? Surely there are many different circumstances between now and then which one cannot use to draw any definite conclusions about how the FD2R may be influenced by what has happened in the past, but one thing they now know is that the Type R loyalist consumer is not so easily hoodwinked in to believing that simply placing a Type R badge can fool the buyer in to thinking that they are getting Honda's most perfomance focussed effort - did this affect their sales expectations with the DC5R? I really don't know what outcomes or lessons were learnt from this... maybe someone can comment on this.

I see the best outcome for us in the future, as a consumer and enthusiast is to start off with the JDM car as is, tuned for 98RON, and any small modifications for ADRs, but to keep all the other elements intact at a price up to $50K. That would be a very compelling value argument. Get some credible journalists on board to review and detail the car and more people would be aware that Type R really is something special. No other manufacturer makes cars like these anymore without going to the GT3 end of the market. What's even more impressive is that Honda can do it at a price which makes it accessible to more of the masses.

[mpd076-chuck]

JDM CTR is tuned for 100RON. We have only 98RON everywhere. Our 100RON is not available widely enough for them to consider bringing the FD2R still tuned for 100RON.

Hey Aaron, you might be best to answer this...
It seems the FD2R being released in Malaysia has the 165kw engine.

http://www.honda.com.my/

I thought maximum readily available RON in Malaysia was 97?

Does this mean Honda Australia are purely cost cutting if they detune? Thoughts?

[sitta]

with the currency conversion it cost around 65000 oz dollar on road in malaysia... shit...

[denot]

with the currency conversion it cost around 65000 oz dollar on road in malaysia... shit...

Hahahah... but the other version of Civic is more expensive over there anyway

how come in Langkawi its a lot cheaper??? AUD$40k

[aaronng]

Hey Aaron, you might be best to answer this...
It seems the FD2R being released in Malaysia has the 165kw engine.

http://www.honda.com.my/

I thought maximum readily available RON in Malaysia was 97?

Does this mean Honda Australia are purely cost cutting if they detune? Thoughts?

You should read WHY the FD2R is being released in Malaysia. Then you will understand why they are bringing in a 100RON engine into a country that sells only 97 RON.

Anyway, at the price that it is being sold in Malaysia, the buyers would be rich enough to afford racing fuel (which can be purchased through the many thousands of work/tuning shops) anyway.

[aaronng]

Hahahah... but the other version of Civic is more expensive over there anyway

how come in Langkawi its a lot cheaper??? AUD$40k

Langkawi is a tax-free island. Downside is you can't bring the car out of there. Langkawi also has very nice mountain roads and a small track. So if you are rich enough to have a house there, just keep the car there and fly up for the weekend for a fang. Did I mention that it is a small island and therefore there is almost zero traffic police there? They only have the regular cops that stay in the police stations that respond to emergency calls.

[NightRyder]

Guys,
you might think this could be purely speculation or may even be true but from a source I've received, this is the news (and please don't beat me up for this as I am purely passing on information that I have been told ):

Honda Australia is seriously considering bringing the FD2 into Australia. At the moment of course nothing is 100% but from what I have been told, those high above in the management level (of Honda Australia) who normally decide on bringing certain models and numbers into the country rarely make decisions which don't just go unjust.

The word is, once all the 1,200 FN2's are sold out that would be it for the FN2 CTR's. Yes, (from what I have been told) after the 1,200 FN2's are all gone there is a strong chance that Honda Australia will start bringing in the FD2.

Due to the not-so-much-hype and the cost of bringing these FN2 cars from the UK, obviously Honda Australia had to think of other alternatives and this may be it.

Fact: It is much cheaper to have cars shipped from Japan than it is the UK and surprisingly there were numerous inquiries about the 4-door (FD2) CTR than the current 2-door (FN2) CTR, by Honda fans like us.

Honda Australia isn't obviously confirming anything as the R&D department have to analyse all aspects of the car and its logistics. And one of the factors which all know about is the fuel quality that we have here compared to Japan.

So, if this is real 'information' then I'm sure it will be fantastic news for us Honda fans. And I will be lining up for one.
But if not, then as mentioned this is purely 'information' obtained from a car expert who knows someone from Honda Australia.

[mpd076-chuck]

You should read WHY the FD2R is being released in Malaysia.

Got a link?

I read the TOVA articles and the reasoning there is "The Civic Type-R is only the beginning and if it succeeds, it will lead to more such desirable models for Malaysia and elsewhere across the world."

So they want the car in full effect to really show people what Honda can do? Or because it will compete against the WRX and Golf GTI and it needs to be as competitive as possible? I assume with the TOVA quoted extremely limited numbers (10 units a month) running 100 RON can be justified as you say by tuning shops etc.

For those wanting to read TOVA article.
http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index.html
http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index1.html

PS - Many thousands of tuning shops... that sounds pretty cool, I don't know much about the Malaysian tuning scene.

[bigdongers]

If the UK CTR keeps selling, why not keep bring it in? No need to drop it because they want the sedan.

I am interested to know how they will position the JDM CTR. Will it be a WRX competitor or STI/EVO competitor? If you look at the kit, its definitely STi like (brembos etc) but power is not really up there.

I also feel that 50K is far too high. $45k maybe but definitely no higher.

[bigdongers]

oh and its a dedicated 4 seater. Why not 5 seats??

[jrs_ke11]

if we do get the FD2 we better get it in Championship White

[aaronng]

Got a link?

I read the TOVA articles and the reasoning there is "The Civic Type-R is only the beginning and if it succeeds, it will lead to more such desirable models for Malaysia and elsewhere across the world."

So they want the car in full effect to really show people what Honda can do? Or because it will compete against the WRX and Golf GTI and it needs to be as competitive as possible? I assume with the TOVA quoted extremely limited numbers (10 units a month) running 100 RON can be justified as you say by tuning shops etc.

For those wanting to read TOVA article.
http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index.html
http://asia.vtec.net/news/myJDMCTR/index1.html

PS - Many thousands of tuning shops... that sounds pretty cool, I don't know much about the Malaysian tuning scene.

http://www.vtec.net/forums/one-messa...page_number=1&

In this thread, "WongKN" is the same guy that runs Temple of VTEC Asia. It's solely because of him that Malaysia is getting the FD2R.