switching to tip-tronic

[BiLL|z0r]

I'll have to take a ride with 1 of you 6mt people 1 day or curcuit drag 5at vs 6mt stock vs stock as I still can't imagine such huge gains of the 6mt over the 5at. Even my almost stock 5at can keep up with more powerful (yet heavier) 4 and 6cyl cars. Almost not talking to 160km'hr here but to the speed limit of the area (of course ).

[80057]

just be careful with it, the tiptronic is still electronically overriden by the car's own ecu.

sometimes you will be going up a hill, in auto mode in 3rd and you wanna go down to 2nd, but just as u tap it over to tiptronic the car chucks it into 2nd automatically, and when you tap WAM you're in first and redlining it.. LOL not fun.

just make sure u read the number on the dashboard before u tap it too many times.

i dont change it into manual when i realise it i dont have enough torque, i will normally think hill coming, or slow arse car ahead, put it into manual just before the hill etc. but first few weeks i did have to get use to knowing what gear its in. instead of knowing from the position of gear lever in a manual.

I'll have to take a ride with 1 of you 6mt people 1 day or curcuit drag 5at vs 6mt stock vs stock as I still can't imagine such huge gains of the 6mt over the 5at. Even my almost stock 5at can keep up with more powerful (yet heavier) 4 and 6cyl cars. Almost not talking to 160km'hr here but to the speed limit of the area (of course ).

im interested in this aswell, i do think man would have an advantage but i dont know how much, most 6 speed boxes have 6 as a kind of overdrive which is rarely used, (correct me if im wrong) do you 6spd guys use the 6th gear very often? that being said even 5th in the auto is alittle long i think.

[aaronng]

im interested in this aswell, i do think man would have an advantage but i dont know how much, most 6 speed boxes have 6 as a kind of overdrive which is rarely used, (correct me if im wrong) do you 6spd guys use the 6th gear very often? that being said even 5th in the auto is alittle long i think.

It doesn't matter if 6th gear is an overdrive. An overdrive is just a gear ratio that is less than 1:1. So the manual can consider both 5th and 6th as overdrives, while the autos have both 4th and 5th as overdrives.

What matters are two things, the gear ratios and the slightly higher power loss in an auto because of the torque convertor.

Manual Auto

Ratio 1 3.533:1 2.651:1
Ratio 2 1.880:1 1.516:1
Ratio 3 1.354:1 1.081:1
Ratio 4 1.027:1 0.772:1
Ratio 5 0.825:1 0.566:1
Ratio 6 0.659:1 n/a
Reverse 3.583:1 2.00:1
Final drive ratio 4.388:1 4.437:1

Since the final drive ratios are similar (0.05 difference), we can concentrate on the actual gear ratios. As you can see, the manual has shorter ratios all the way to the 5th gear. If you notice, the ratios of 4th gear for the manual and 3rd gear for the auto, they are similar and therefore through the loss of the torque convertor, the manual in 4th gear will still accelerate harder than the auto in 3rd.

So you can also say that what you feel in the auto's 4th gear is what manual owners feel if they had a gear in between 5th and 6th gear.