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    Quote Originally Posted by Barge Ass View Post
    RX7 was aimed at Porsche, whilst RX8 at Integras, 200SX's etc
    right... now i have heard everything.....

    http://www.autoweb.com.au/cms/A_1011...8/article.html
    The RX-8 doesn’t seem to have any direct competitors. The 350Z in Australia seems to be it’s rival, but the Nissan accepts only 2 people, has less storage space and has a strong 3.5 litre engine. Price tag is similar, starting at $59,990.
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    Direct competition? None. No other vehicle offers four door, four seat versatility in a high performance sports coupe body for under $60,000. However, there are cars which do supply similar in-cabin versatility and scintillating performance.

    The base-model Mazda RX-8 Holden Monaro CV8 is one, BMW 325Ci is another, though performance on the price competitive 320Ci is not strong. Consider also the Honda S2000, Audi A4, Lexus IS200 and Nissan 350Z, which match some of the RX-8's abilities, but not all. Consider also the Subaru Impreza WRX in high performance STi form, though its links to the basic $20,000 Imprezas harm any prestige aspirations.

    Possibly the most logical cmpetitor is the Subaru Liberty GT, scheduled for Australian launch in September 2003. It has similar performance from its turbocharged 2.0-litre engine, though it is all-wheel drive and has a more conventional sedan body. Tough choice that one.
    http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring...ports/pgto.htm
    At the end of the day, the Pontiac GTO looks like a car that would sell extremely well in Australia, but as it stands, Holden only plans on exporting them for the über-lucrative American markets. Direct competitors to the GTO will be BMWs 3 Series, the Chrysler Crossfire, Mazda RX8, Nissan 350Z, Ford Mustang GT, and Dodge's new Charger.

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    rotary is a 4 stroke engine u clown and no it doesnt do them all at the same time. it operates every 1/3 of a crank turn. so 3 full crank turns = 1 rotary turn (both rotors)

    a 4 cyl is 1/4 each.. so every 1/4 of the crank turn, theres a power stroke. 6 cyl is obviously 1/6 and 8's r 1/8, hence y theres no much that will idle as smooth as an 8 (when left stock ofcourse)

    the reason the rotor so much power compared to pistons is because 1.. they dont lose any power to friction from going up and down and turnin cams and all that bullshit. 2nd they take in more air due to its volumetrics and because of this, they drink more fuel (hence the not so good economy) and when turbo charged, u take advantage of it all and get massive gains like 800kw 2lt engines... ridiculous... but like i said b4.. rx8 is great stock against civics, but against an itr or 200sx... thats where the bullshit stops and everyone walks away from the rx8.. its a soft sports car compared with what its up against

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    Quote Originally Posted by silver_screen View Post
    a 4 cyl is 1/4 each.. so every 1/4 of the crank turn, theres a power stroke. 6 cyl is obviously 1/6 and 8's r 1/8, hence y theres no much that will idle as smooth as an 8 (when left stock ofcourse)
    Incorrect, 4 stroke, 4 cylinder = 2 power strokes per revolution, not 4.
    4 stroke, 6 cyl = 3 power strokes/revolution
    4 stroke 8 cyl = 4 power strokes/revolution

    Each cylinder has 1 power stroke every 2 revs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    Wow, the M5 is a shopping trolley too!
    roflcopter. i think ur missing the point. An RX8 was made ground up to be a fun sports car. A civic was made to do exactly what you said "carry 5 people (more like 4 realistically) get the groceries and get 400km out of tank". the 'sports car' (vtir type r whatever) civic were made as an after thought. Honda can turn a 'shopping trolley' () into a well balanced sports better then anybody, but comparing these two cars (civic and rx8) is totally ridiculous.
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    and u guys gotta realise ur asking a honda forum if a mazda rx8 can beat a honda blah blah blah, doesnt matter how good rx8's are the majority of people will say hondas are the best because its a honda enthusiasts forum etc etc etc ....
    i reckon rx8s are tops =) but the most legendary mazda are the s8 rx7s imo. shits over any honda

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omotesando View Post
    EK VTiR do the 0-400m around 7.7 to 7.8s.
    lol


    at the end of the day the rx-8 is prob faster in a straight line than a dc2r but i dont see the prob with that... the rx-8 is a newer model but was not designed to have the track focus the dc2r has, jus depends what ppl want in a car

    also, i rekon if u posted this thread on a mazda forum theyde get a great laugh out of overrating their hondas straight line speed (above quote not included)

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    Quote Originally Posted by boosted_andy View Post
    and u guys gotta realise ur asking a honda forum if a mazda rx8 can beat a honda blah blah blah, doesnt matter how good rx8's are the majority of people will say hondas are the best because its a honda enthusiasts forum etc etc etc ....
    i reckon rx8s are tops =) but the most legendary mazda are the s8 rx7s imo. shits over any honda
    what about a nsx-r ???? it wouldnt just shit all over it but flush it down the toilet too
    if a 10k shopping trolley can beat a sports car worth 60k
    wouldnt the 60k sports car driver be piss off ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    what about a nsx-r ???? it wouldnt just shit all over it but flush it down the toilet too
    RX8 and NSX-R are different cars aimed at different markets.
    why dont you compare the NSX-R to say a Porsche GT3?


    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    if a 10k shopping trolley can beat a sports car worth 60k
    wouldnt the 60k sports car driver be piss off ????
    maybe when i was younger, but not anymore. at the end of the day, it is still a 10k shopping trolly car. you'd find the majority of the rx8 owners have a "spare" shopping trolly car thats worth more than 10k

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    Quote Originally Posted by EZZY View Post
    RX8 and NSX-R are different cars aimed at different markets.
    why dont you compare the NSX-R to say a Porsche GT3?



    maybe when i was younger, but not anymore. at the end of the day, it is still a 10k shopping trolly car. you'd find the majority of the rx8 owners have a "spare" shopping trolly car thats worth more than 10k
    please read what boosted andy has said .................
    why dont u watch best motoring videos ????????
    why do rx8 owners say that the rx8 is slow and it needs a turbo charger added ??????
    funny after paying 60 k for a sports car and rx8 owners still say it is slow
    hmmmmmm.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    why do rx8 owners say that the rx8 is slow and it needs a turbo charger added ??????
    funny after paying 60 k for a sports car and rx8 owners still say it is slow
    hmmmmmm.......
    because some of tehm have realised that they have made a 60k mistake.

    i dont think the RX8 is slow by any means, and i never have wanted to add a turbocharger onto it, even though i have been offered a "deal" a couple of yeras ago.

    you'd find these are "younger gen" ppl who bought the car for its looks and thought he/she could "get used to" the performance, and not knowing how to drive the thing properly.

    RX8 is a luxury sports car (if you can call that...) and in most cases, it does not have a direct competitor......

    same question abck to you.... why do these DC2-R ppl modding their engines to get more power...

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    same question abck to you.... why do these DC2-R ppl modding their engines to get more power... [/QUOTE]

    becos they they have still have 40k to spend with their 60k they didnt spend on a rx8!!!!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    becos they they have still have 40k to spend with their 60k they didnt spend on a rx8!!!!! lol
    you missed my point... we are not talking about the price of the car here, its all about the choice of the car.....

    it isnt too much to spend 60k on a car nowadays.

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