Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
In the wet, what you are experiencing is the traction control, not the VSA.

Yeah, the under-oversteer is the VSA. After experiencing it once in the dry at the speed limit on a smooth curvey road, I started turning it off all together. I prefer gradual understeer that I can control rather than snap oversteer.
It is so funny you say that as if you are the person who understands how it works. I typed Traction Control specifically because I was experiencing Traction Control when I am accelerating with steering input in the wet, but in reality it is an integral part of the VSA system hence I also wrote VSA afterwards. VSA has many components that make up the complete system, Traction control and ABS are part of the package, and as far as I'm concerned, you can turn the VSA off and there will be no Traction Control left either (but there will be ABS), so I don't understand what you said at all.

As for gradual understeer vs snap oversteer, in actual fact, generally speaking oversteer is usually safer than understeer because you won't be ploughing into on-coming cars. The snap oversteer will of course be as dangerous in some situations depending on how many metres it stepped out but if your car didn't snap oversteer to the point of swapping ends then I don't understand why you think gradual understeer is safer than snap over-steer unless you ended up facing the other direction? Which I think is highly unlikely.

If you are already committed to a corner and the corner is still a curvature, then obviously oversteer will be safer than understeer because even as it oversteers it will still turn into the corner and the rear of the car is more likely to be within the same lane despite it feeling a bit loose. Perhaps I am used to driving Rear wheel drive before my Honda Euro and I got used to the dangerous feeling of oversteer but ultimately unless it 'snapped' around I wouldn't call the VSA kicking in as snap oversteer, but more like an oversteer correction to help it being in control.

This also reminds me of Craig Lowdnes driving someone else's WRX in Wheels mag and understeered the thing into the wall.