[Euro] Hondata Update

[tony1234]

I wonder how long us 06-07 owners are going to have to wait?

[E-Gene]

Im thinking of just going TODA headers and standard ecu reflash... only costs $2500 and should give me an extra 20kw atw...

My thoughts exactly. That's my plan too.

[EUR003act]

That's $125 per kW. The Jtune package comes out to about $83 per kW.

lol but i already have 130.9kw atw... using custom exhaust and k&n CAI... so $2500 to get me to 150kw or $4000 to get me to 158kw...

as far as im aware at the hubs and at the wheels is basically the exact same thing, at the hubs is just alot more accurate... so the kit should see you at about 158kw atw

[sodaz]

I read somewhere that hub dynos give higher readings than roller dynos. Guess we'll see when it's released.

[BusterSonic12]

I read somewhere that hub dynos give higher readings than roller dynos. Guess we'll see when it's released.

from what i know yes. The hub gives higher reader

[aaronng]

lol but i already have 130.9kw atw... using custom exhaust and k&n CAI... so $2500 to get me to 150kw or $4000 to get me to 158kw...

as far as im aware at the hubs and at the wheels is basically the exact same thing, at the hubs is just alot more accurate... so the kit should see you at about 158kw atw

You can't compare readings from different brands of dynos, let alone different types of dynos. A better way is to see what was Jtune's dyno of a stock Euro and compare the difference with the 158kW reading.

A hub dyno usually reads about 5% higher than a dyno dynamics rolling road dyno.

[yfin]

After the group buy period the complete price will go up to around $4600, so you are getting a discount for waiting so long.

If that price is right it could be around $5000 installed. Good luck to them if they can get people paying that sort of money.

A hub dyno usually reads about 5% higher than a dyno dynamics rolling road dyno.

You are right about different dynos - these hub dynos can be up to 10% higher than at the wheels (my understanding).

Either way it doesnt really matter - the on road behaviour is what counts and if Peekay pulled a low 14s 1/4 that shows the performance right there.

[ALN]

Dyna pack or hub dyno reads about 10% higher than typical dyno jet. Hub dyno close to flywheel HP. 1/4 mile can shows it or use the same dyno on the same day.

[yfin]

as far as im aware at the hubs and at the wheels is basically the exact same thing, at the hubs is just alot more accurate... so the kit should see you at about 158kw atw

Definately not - I have asked James that question 6 months ago and he said up to 10% difference at the wheels.

But really peak numbers are bulltish. It is insignificant. What you really need to look at is the before and after graph. Look at the percentage differences at points on the curve. That is where this package proves itself - not in peak numbers.

[Zdster]

Can someone explain to me why there is so much excitment over a 'reflash'? Essentially all you are doing is applying a 'generic' (if somewhat modified map) to a modified, individual car. As far as I can tell you would be much better having an individual tune done that relates directly to the specific car than having a standardised branded product.

[aaronng]

Can someone explain to me why there is so much excitment over a 'reflash'? Essentially all you are doing is applying a 'generic' (if somewhat modified map) to a modified, individual car. As far as I can tell you would be much better having an individual tune done that relates directly to the specific car than having a standardised branded product.

Because this is the only economical way to have a custom tune without relying on an interceptor. The Kpro does not yet work with the Euro.

[Zdster]

Because this is the only economical way to have a custom tune without relying on an interceptor. The Kpro does not yet work with the Euro.

IMHO, I wouldnt be jumping on board on any 'reflash' and would much prefer to wait until an economical option comes on the market.