[Euro] Hondata Update

[Suntzu]

I agree with tony. Bang for buck i reckon their Intake ( no i dont have one yet) and the flash is the best value.

Im going to get the Flash and Intake:

then later:

Decent affordable headers
Mod my exhaust for about $500 to free it up.

I reckon all up Ill spend about $2500 and get 80% of the extreme package. Also I can do it bit by bit also.

[TRaNz]

LoL, yeah dont we all need more buck.
So say just gettin the reflash with the intake ( well diff one ), be still worth it? In terms of noticeable power increase that is....and maybe some sound

[tony1234]

Just check those numbers Tony - looks to me around +75nm on extreme at 4500rpm (around 40% gain!) whereas mild with intake is only around +25nm at same RPM (around +15%). Extreme should be better bang for buck but you do obviously need more buck...

Sorry i meant extreme pack MINUS reflash.That's what i based my figures on.

[yfin]

Im going to get the Flash and Intake:

then later:

Decent affordable headers
Mod my exhaust for about $500 to free it up.

I reckon all up Ill spend about $2500 and get 80% of the extreme package. Also I can do it bit by bit also.

Would be good to see a chart for mild flash with aftermarket i/h/e dont you think?

[Cranial]

Extreme package is definately looking good... but quite expensive! But it sure sounds like the goods! I'm quite happy with my current mods already, so I might hold off for a while to see what others think with real-life experiences once people actually start installing them in their Euros.

yfin, in terms of performance on paper, how would you stack the Extreme package to the VE SS?

[tony1234]

Everyone here is going to wait to see who takes the plunge first.It'll be interesting to see how many of us will by Oct.14th.

[yfin]

yfin, in terms of performance on paper, how would you stack the Extreme package to the VE SS?

It depends - from stand still the extreme package struggles to get power to the ground. 14.8 over the 1/4 is dissapointing given the power and mph numbers. It can do better than that for sure with stiffer and lower suspension, better tyres, engine torque damper etc. The SS out of the box would run around 13.5 second over the same distance in ideal conditions. High 13s if you have a boot full of VB for your bogan mates on your way to the BBQ to watch the cricket.

For rolling speeds it would be closer and it wouldn't surprise me if in some rolling situations and in the right gear the extreme is similar or even better than the SS. As much as I like the Euro the fact is 530nm is a huge advantage even for a modded Euro to compete with.

[sodaz]

From the pricing i don't think many people will be going for the extreme package. Buying I/H/E + Reflash all in 1 go and shelling out $4000+ grand in cash is a pretty scary thing to do imo.

[Cranial]

True, 530Nm of the SS is a force to be reckoned with, even with the extreme package for the Euro. I remember reading some Motor magazine recently that the manual SS on the dyno was putting close to 300kW rather than the advertised 270kW - pretty awesome I must say. I should really test drive one to see how the difference in torque affects the driving (and yes, I know they are totally different cars!).

[yfin]

From the pricing i don't think many people will be going for the extreme package. Buying I/H/E + Reflash all in 1 go and shelling out $4000+ grand in cash is a pretty scary thing to do imo.

So who is actually buying extreme from here?

On the front page see how they say "Jtune products are engineered and tested..." Does that mean they are providing an engineering certificate for the modifications so they become road legal? I always assumed they would not provide such paperwork but now i am not so sure.

[aaronng]

From the pricing i don't think many people will be going for the extreme package. Buying I/H/E + Reflash all in 1 go and shelling out $4000+ grand in cash is a pretty scary thing to do imo.

If you price all the individual components separately by using comparable parts from aftermarket brands, it comes up to a similar price. Add up the prices for Toda headers, metal cat, K&N CAI and some dual muffler $1200 system and there is only about $500 left for ECU tuning. The reflash will give better gains than a VAFCii because of the ability to alter ignition and VTC, so in the end, this package eventhough is a lot of money, is not bad if you have the $4000 lying around.

$4000 is still less than the price of a set of 18" Rays CE28n and tyres.

[fatfish]

for mild flash could any tuner tune the reflash to sue our mod, or we have to done by the hondata dealer. what if i add more mod like cam, or Sports Injection System pluse mod i had done with I/H/E will flash still work on my car?