Quote Originally Posted by chylld View Post
you have a point, but still, $30000 is a big investment for a lot of people, and with it comes certain expectations. i've owned 3 new cars before this civic: a $29k corolla, a $28k astra and a $18k getz. none of these cars had more than 2-3 problems in their entire history. then i spend $37k on a honda civic and i get 27 problems (twenty-seven).

my point is that while it is fair to only expect so much given the manufacturer's sale price / build price ratio, there does exist a limit as to how low those expectations have to be.
I thought I'd chip into this thread because it seems to be an interesting topic. I bought a Civic VTi-L about a month ago and I gotta say I'm not entirely happy with it either. I'm having a different problem to most of you whereby the engine struggles to start when the car is warm (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80538). It's really pissing me off because it's so hard to reproduce the damn problem but it's definitely there.

Yes, I bought a car for less than $30K but should a 21st century car sometimes take 2 key turns to start because it's warm?

I went with buying a Honda because I always thought Honda's quality and reliability was second only to the likes of Toyota. I knew the car was built in Thailand but didn't think that would be a source of problems in this day and age.

Now, I think I'll think twice about buying a Honda.