GReddy Kit + D16Y1 SOHC VTec E-manage Untuned = 97.5WKW Not Bad!!

**destrukshn** · 07-02-2008 04:32 PM

what about the labour part?

**tekung89** · 07-02-2008 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by Weq

What also pisses me off is guys like TODA get mhad reps and still blow up peoples engines. Then they get more money cause they blame the components of peoples setups instead of taking the fall themselves, and to their rep. People come back to them with new setups, they blow them up and then once again play the blame game.

well said, couldnt agree more.

Originally Posted by Weq

What has happened is because you exhaust is too small, you wernt making the power it should. So on the dyno toda goes and up's the timing (just like dynodave and all the other experienced tuners) to gain more power and save his rep. Unlike b-series, d-series cant take timing for shit, and all it does is increase combustion pressures to the point were the sleeves move and the headgasket blows. (cause of the added pressures of the RS ratio(amoung other things)). It might not blow on the dyno, but just playing with the timing and settting it that high for a single run starts the time-bomb ticking.

i agree with this too, but like lukezen27 said.. his headgasket was already on its way out but imo if he knew that his headgasket was on the way out, why dyno it and up the psi / get more power out of it.

nevermind =) nice car tho , 120kw is still something to be proud of coming from a D. but we all kno that its capable of way more

**Lukezen27** · 07-02-2008 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by destrukshn

what about the labour part?

I guess thats the trick plus time in between lol

Originally Posted by tekung89

i agree with this too, but like lukezen27 said.. his headgasket was already on its way out but imo if he knew that his headgasket was on the way out, why dyno it and up the psi / get more power out of it.

nevermind =) nice car tho , 120kw is still something to be proud of coming from a D. but we all kno that its capable of way more

Yeah I just thought I was the cheap radiator I had not a head gasket lol

So I replaced it but had the same problem

I think 120kw on 12pis @ only 5500RPM is quiet good IMO

**lukecivic** · 07-02-2008 06:02 PM

are you using a aftermarket thermostat lukezen27?
its been recommended to me to use one, any suggestions on which 1 to use?

**Lukezen27** · 07-02-2008 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by lukecivic

are you using a aftermarket thermostat lukezen27?
its been recommended to me to use one, any suggestions on which 1 to use?

Na stock

New thermostat won't do shit unless you also get a low heat trigger switch I think..

**Sexc86** · 07-02-2008 06:18 PM

I run spoon low temp thermo stat and thermo switch. Its awsome.. but the fan in nearly ALWAYES running hahaha

**Lukezen27** · 07-02-2008 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Sexc86

I run spoon low temp thermo stat and thermo switch. Its awsome.. but the fan in nearly ALWAYES running hahaha

I can imagine lol

Mines on close to all the time with standard

**1996ek1** · 07-02-2008 08:58 PM

Spoon and mugen are the most common low temp thermo and fan switch'
Both together will cost you around $200

And luke, did you change your map sensor, or using stock one ?

**Lukezen27** · 08-02-2008 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by 1996ek1

Spoon and mugen are the most common low temp thermo and fan switch'
Both together will cost you around $200

And luke, did you change your map sensor, or using stock one ?

Stock map sensor

**Limbo** · 08-02-2008 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by tekung89

well said, couldnt agree more.

i agree with this too, but like lukezen27 said.. his headgasket was already on its way out but imo if he knew that his headgasket was on the way out, why dyno it and up the psi / get more power out of it.

nevermind =) nice car tho , 120kw is still something to be proud of coming from a D. but we all kno that its capable of way more

seriously i don't know how you guys are bagging Toda when your in QLD and have not seen him work. Has he done a tune for you?

I for one have watched him tune quite a few cars and seen some of great tunes he's done. I personally know the people who own these cars and they have nothing but praise for his work.

You guys keep saying he blows motors, well if that's the case then can someone who has a motor blown by him speak up otherwise why spout crap.

**kayot1k** · 08-02-2008 11:50 AM

wow love this controversy.

weq i loved his comment about weaksauce, weaksauce . thats a classic.
as it may be true about his comments about theres only so much d series can put out, and at the same time b series having the same output with less effort. D-series are cheap as chips and i guess B-series is getting there atm as well just depends on your preference i guess.
wheres the honda love yo ? shouldnt be arguing.

As for everyone tuning at TODA, to be quite frank dont know many that can tune the hondas as well as Adrian. Maybe there is but the number of customers at TODA dont lie. Motors blow all the time, when you put ur car on the dyno there is always a risk of something going wrong stock or not.

**grumpy rooster** · 08-02-2008 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by fatboyz39

Do you really want us to post pics of blown toda motors? Dig up the blown motor thread. Check there and see for yourself.

I've seen crap tunes from lots of tuners (and not saying the tune was the problem in this case or any other supposed TODA failure). Does that mean I have to name them all? It doesn't do anything other than cause arguments.

Let it go guys.