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  1. #1645
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    Quote Originally Posted by yfin View Post
    Honda dealers do not have the ability to reflash the ECU according to Jtune.
    Which was proven otherwise when a TSX owner in the US had his Hondata reflash "erased" when they updated his ECU software.
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    Stocky CL9 - 1:17.2

  2. #1646
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    I actually have the flash and im not worried at all as I know my dealer wont do it without contacting me first. Doesnt worry me in the slightest.
    I went to the modded XR5 Turbo with Mods - the dark side.....BOOOOST!

  3. #1647
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntzu View Post
    I actually have the flash and im not worried at all as I know my dealer wont do it without contacting me first. Doesnt worry me in the slightest.
    Is your lid painted for the mild flash like mine for the extreme ?

    Bit hard for them not to know with Hondata painted across the ECU lid in bright red paint!
    133.4kw atw
    14.8 - 400m Willowbank

  4. #1648
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    oh bugger. That's not cool.
    Jazz: stock, K&N panel filter.
    120 Series Prado GXL Petrol: Pacemaker extractors, Dual 2 1/4" exhaust, 70 series MT STZ's, ARB non-winch bullbar, snorkel, Dimpled and slotted rotors.

  5. #1649
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin086 View Post
    Is your lid painted for the mild flash like mine for the extreme ?

    Bit hard for them not to know with Hondata painted across the ECU lid in bright red paint!
    Actually my lid is stock. It was because of the initial problem flashing my ecu that I have a completely stock looking unit.

    Once my warranty is up im actually going to tell them its flashed. i wont have any issues from my dealer. I spend a lot of money there including a new CRV lux.
    I went to the modded XR5 Turbo with Mods - the dark side.....BOOOOST!

  6. #1650
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    how much difference does it make with hondata reflash with hondata setup compared to your own setup of I/H/E?

    Regards,
    vTeK 4-Life!
    FOR SALE: CL9

  7. #1651
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crapdaz View Post
    how much difference does it make with hondata reflash with hondata setup compared to your own setup of I/H/E?

    Regards,

    OK, I found a decent improvement going from stock to CAI and header at once. Better at revving and a bit more torque.

    Then after a few months I got the Jtune mild flash. Its about the same again. So together theres a very good increase in total. With the flash it was greatly improved throttle response and better midrange torque and generally smoother and more flexible engine performance than stock.

    I would not recommend the mild flash without I/H you wouldn't be seeing the gains. This is brought out my the graphs at jtune showing the mild flash with/without Intake etc.

    Im pretty happy with my car now, esp after all the screwing around. Its really good to drive now and a lot of fun. Im not going to get exhaust at this stage as im yet to see a single argument for decent performance gains without a lot of noise. My car is very close to stock sounding but pulls like a M**ther now. Stealth...
    Last edited by Suntzu; 12-03-2008 at 09:31 AM.
    I went to the modded XR5 Turbo with Mods - the dark side.....BOOOOST!

  8. #1652
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    OK, I found a decent improvement going from stock to CAI and header at once. Better at revving and a bit more torque.

    Then after a few months I got the Jtune mild flash. Its about the same again. So together theres a very good increase in total. With the flash it was greatly improved throttle response and better midrange torque and generally smoother and more flexible engine performance than stock.

    I would not recommend the mild flash without I/H you wouldn't be seeing the gains. This is brought out my the graphs at jtune showing the mild flash with/without Intake etc.

    Im pretty happy with my car now, esp after all the screwing around. Its really good to drive now and a lot of fun. Im not going to get exhaust at this stage as im yet to see a single argument for decent performance gains without a lot of noise. My car is very close to stock sounding but pulls like a M**ther now. Stealth...
    What header are you running suntzu? and how much gains did you get from dyno run?
    vTeK 4-Life!
    FOR SALE: CL9

  9. #1653
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suntzu View Post
    OK, I found a decent improvement going from stock to CAI and header at once. Better at revving and a bit more torque.

    Then after a few months I got the Jtune mild flash. Its about the same again. So together theres a very good increase in total. With the flash it was greatly improved throttle response and better midrange torque and generally smoother and more flexible engine performance than stock.

    I would not recommend the mild flash without I/H you wouldn't be seeing the gains. This is brought out my the graphs at jtune showing the mild flash with/without Intake etc.

    Im pretty happy with my car now, esp after all the screwing around. Its really good to drive now and a lot of fun. Im not going to get exhaust at this stage as im yet to see a single argument for decent performance gains without a lot of noise. My car is very close to stock sounding but pulls like a M**ther now. Stealth...
    Hi Suntzu

    Thanks for your feedback on the mild reflash. You seem to be just about the only person around who has one at the moment. I'm still waiting until practically I can go without my car for a week before I get Jtune to give my reflash another go (last attempt failed).

    I tend to agree that a reflash without intake would likely be a waste of time. I'm not so sure about the necessity of headers though.

    You mention that your car sounds very stock, so I'm assuming that the reflash doesn't result in any extra noise - except maybe the fact that vtec kicks in at 5K. Do your headers make more noise than the Icebox?

    I'm curious as to whether headers change the exhaust note on the Euro or make it louder and whether there is much performance gain?

    In regards to exhaust, I share your sentiment of not wanting to make the Euro louder when the current system seems to cope well with I/H and reflash.
    2007 Euro Luxury Sat-Nav 6MT
    Nighthawk Black, Black leather
    Full body-kit & spoiler, Silver interior upgrade, Multimedia player, Stainless Steel door trims
    Comptech Icebox, Whiteline swaybar

  10. #1654
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    I have the cheapy stainless steel Topspeed header. It does hiss a bit. I could not hear it at all over the sucking sound of the Fujita CAI but now I have the Comptech Icebox they sound about the same in loudness. Not very loud, hardly over stock. Only you would pick it, not a euro owner. The hissing is only noticeable at 2000-3500 rpm. Its very minor. It doesnt even register to me and im fussy.

    The Jtune flash makes no difference to noise. The vtec engages in about 5000rpm, but theres no kick. Its just a relentless surge. No in some ways its quieter.

    I had a specific budget in mind and a specific power output in mind. So that swhy I didnt go the extreme ( also noise isue) or get Toda headers etc. I reckon I might have excellent bang for buck once i get the Dyno done. cheers
    I went to the modded XR5 Turbo with Mods - the dark side.....BOOOOST!

  11. #1655
    How much is the cost of the reflash Suntzu? Is it actually 1250? Can it be lower? Does it include dynos?

  12. #1656
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    I got the pre order price of about $900 , I think its a bit more now, check the www.jtune.com.au site. No you dont get dynos unless you ask/pay.

    It depends on your ability to negotiate.

    Im surprised that there's not more here with the flash as a heap of users here were talking it up ....but I guess not willing to put their money where there mouth is.

    Hows the extreme guys going? Some more feedback would be nice re: power and noise issues. cheers
    Last edited by Suntzu; 15-03-2008 at 07:53 AM.
    I went to the modded XR5 Turbo with Mods - the dark side.....BOOOOST!

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