Geneva International Motor Show - New Accord

[SPQR]

This is a totally different matter. It's very difficult to get the k24a to make 176kW at the price they are selling the Euro, let alone 211kW. Why? Because of the high RPM the engine would have to spin at and the long stroke, thus requiring stronger internals. It would be better if Honda just made a FWD version of the F22C and gearbox and put that into the Euro (or make a k22a)

That's why I qualified my post with "Apart from a dearth of useful torque". A catch-all meaning it's not practical for normal cars. But somewhat more than 147kW should be achievable in response to your stated exasperation with the new model's apparent lack of substantive improvement in the power department. An exasperation that I share with you.

Your suggestion might well be desirable over a more potent 2.4L. Or they could put a turbo motor in it as they do with the 2.3L Acura RDX. Having owned three turbo cars to date, I would not mind another as the torque-rush is very addictive.

[aaronng]

Yeah, at the rate that Honda Australia is making decisions on their sporty cars, I'd even settle for the i-DTEC Euro....

[SPQR]

Yeah, at the rate that Honda Australia is making decisions on their sporty cars, I'd even settle for the i-DTEC Euro....

Yeah. I would consider the i-DTEC as well. I heard from my local dealer-principal that it's a no-show for Australia.


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[aaronng]

Yeah. I would consider the i-DTEC as well. I heard from my local dealer-principal that it's a no-show for Australia.


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Well, Honda Australia will lose sales to Mazda then... If they don't want to be the top seller, we can't force them.

[Suntzu]

They "say" there's no diesel coming as it will affect the purchase of the initial petrol sales.
Thats normal sales talk. Never run down your existing product with better options on the way.

I believe ( and have no evidence) that a diesel is coming to oz. look at the mazdas and VW selling so well. Now they have diesels at mass production they can do it cheaper, not to mention the 90% diesel sales in Europe. And the extra attraction of offering a model with awesome fuel consumption.

It will come. I want a diesel wagon with radar assist cruise and some cool gadgets with a 6 speed manual.

[IVTECS4]

I hope they do bring the i-DTEC diesel engine over here . Honda Australia has said "they're investigating it" - the possibility of bring the diesel engine here. Hell , on one of the "honda" magazines they had a test Euro with the old diesel engine - the i-TDCi with a 5 speed and the bloke who test drove the car was raving about how good the old Honda diesel engine was ...

Just bring the damn engine over here all ready!!! lolz .. If is available , I have the new Euro in wagon form and with the i-DTEC diesel engine and a 5AT!!!

[EUR003act]

Yes it doesn't make sense. Apart from a dearth of useful torque, if the S2000 2.0L engine can work at 176kW why shouldn't the 2.4L work at closer to 211kW? 200kW would be a good compromise. I'd accept that. Come on Honda, where's all your fancy technology?

at 7400rpm the pistons in our K24 are travelling at the same speed as the pistons in a F20 doing 8500rpm... to get the K24 to rev that high would require stronger conrods, and probably lighter/stronger crank and pistons...

as aaronng said, money is a factor there... think of similary priced cars in the same mid size sedan catogory of the euro: mazda 6 = 2.5L 125kw? and the bmw 320/3i = 2.0L / 2.3L 105-125kw?

so honda with 2.4L 147kw is pretty good, above the rest... only this is, in australia we need something to match say the mazda 6MPS and the BMW M3 and the liberty GT.... same car, but with alot better engine (K20 euroR)

[EUR003act]

They "say" there's no diesel coming as it will affect the purchase of the initial petrol sales.
Thats normal sales talk. Never run down your existing product with better options on the way.

I believe ( and have no evidence) that a diesel is coming to oz. look at the mazdas and VW selling so well. Now they have diesels at mass production they can do it cheaper, not to mention the 90% diesel sales in Europe. And the extra attraction of offering a model with awesome fuel consumption.

It will come. I want a diesel wagon with radar assist cruise and some cool gadgets with a 6 speed manual.

look up the HIDS (honda intelligent driving system) available on the euroR in japan.... its got features that keep you between the lines and brake for you so you dont run up the back of someone...

[aaronng]

I thought the HIDs was only available on the normal Euro and not the EuroR because the EuroR still used a cabled throttle?

[EUR003act]

I thought the HIDs was only available on the normal Euro and not the EuroR because the EuroR still used a cabled throttle?

possible... i was on the honda japan website (trying to translate...) and from what i could gather it was an option on the 06-07 euroR... but i may be wrong

[Atjo]

Aaron, is the chassis same as our current euro? I wonder if i can fit my AirRunner onto the new euro?

[aaronng]

Aaron, is the chassis same as our current euro? I wonder if i can fit my AirRunner onto the new euro?

Still no idea. Wait and see when www.tein.co.jp is updated. See if they have a new part number for the new Accord. If it does, then the AirRunner might not fot.