Yes, I know torque is the thing!.. No replacement for displacement. The cost of building a gd reliable B20 vtec is way off. A b18C7 will be cheaper..

The point i am making is b18c with 170hp swap worth it or not from a b16a 160hp just for the torque which can be made up for improvements in other aspects.. $4500 or $1700 to spend. Big $$ diff involved!! SO yeah..BUT i am really impress with the torque!! B20 is monster..