AUDM B18C vs AUDM B16a2

**VT1-R** · 13-04-2008 01:49 PM

This question may have been repeated over and over again.

But the point I really need ppl's experience with modding a B16a2(160hp) with I/H/E, Type R cams with a tune or going for a straight drop b18c(170hp)... Considering I have a b16a2 now with I/h/E,clutch,flywheel and have cams n valve springs ready to be dropped in with short shifter and a set of regamaster wheels to complement better acceleration to be bought soon...

Option 1:
Cost of buying valve springs n rebuild kit:$235+$235(DIY swap)
Vafc+tune=$400
Add. $$ for Rega after selling current wheels=$600
Short shifter=$200

Total cost=$1700

Option 2:
Drop AUDM B18C with 170hp, which has 10hp more than b16a.. More torque but marginal increase in peak power considering the $$ put in..

B18C swap inclusive labour after B16a traded in: $4500,

which means $4500 spend jus for a straight swap without getting tune,short shift,with heavier 17" rims now and also no type R spec cams.

The point is that i cant see myself going only 10more hp with spending $4500 and the trouble of a swap than to spend less than half that amount extracting better power out of the almost as competent b16a2 with 160hp through better shifting,peak power and tuning and lighter rotational mass.

B18C7 is not an opinion as it is out of budget:$6500 with engine traded in and takes long time to come.. B18C7 is definitely a great mod but $$ issues are stopping it. So yeah..

So, any1 can tell me their opinion about b18c(170hp) vs B16a(160hp) with some helpful goodies...

Cheers...

**ZeForce** · 13-04-2008 02:12 PM

Do a B20VTEC conversion.... The torque does makes a huge difference, peak power is almost meaningless which is something I dont think alot of ppl reallise.

GREEN: B20VTEC + I/H/E + Tuning
BLUE: B16a + Intake + Tuning

**VT1-R** · 13-04-2008 02:35 PM

Yes, I know torque is the thing!.. No replacement for displacement. The cost of building a gd reliable B20 vtec is way off. A b18C7 will be cheaper..

The point i am making is b18c with 170hp swap worth it or not from a b16a 160hp just for the torque which can be made up for improvements in other aspects.. $4500 or $1700 to spend. Big $$ diff involved!! SO yeah..BUT i am really impress with the torque!! B20 is monster..

**EGB18CT** · 13-04-2008 03:16 PM

turbo ur b16a

**ZeForce** · 13-04-2008 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by VT1-R

Yes, I know torque is the thing!.. No replacement for displacement. The cost of building a gd reliable B20 vtec is way off. A b18C7 will be cheaper..

Actually its not, since you already have a B16a it would only cost you maybe $1500 in parts to do a "reliable" B20VTEC conversion.

PM me for more info

**aramiK** · 13-04-2008 04:31 PM

Go with the b18c - you can mod it later on to perform much better than the b18c7.. not a big difference in these two engines once work is done ...

**CB7_OWNER** · 13-04-2008 06:44 PM

why not swap in a b18c(200hp) from a dc2r?

**todaek9** · 13-04-2008 07:16 PM

B20 is gooddd...
B16a is also goodd...

**fatboyz39** · 13-04-2008 08:45 PM

topic is B18c VS b16a..... 1.8L >1.6L.

**VT1-R** · 13-04-2008 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by CB7_OWNER

why not swap in a b18c(200hp) from a dc2r?

B18C7 is out of budget thats why...

I am asking that if b18c without mods is worth the swap to my current setup or the b16a2 with enhancements will be just as good other than the torque...

**blk_shadow** · 13-04-2008 10:09 PM

I will go with B18C

better torque, more options for more power later on.

when you decide to stroke it, it can go to 2.2 (actually 2.1 something) from B18c, instead of just 1.8 from B16a

at the end of the day 1.8 has more torque than 1.6

that's my opinion.