Sorry guys, I have to say this, all you guys carry on about "Hardcore" blah blah blah. I really do "understand" what you are saying but!

Honda sell cars to make a profit. In order to make a profit, the will sell something that is appealing to the majority.

To do this there is alot of factors, heres a few....reduce production costs, be competative against other cars in their category, have creature comforts etc...

Now, if the FN2R came stripped out as per "Traditional type r" Honda would sell jack s*it. Lose alot of money and Honda fans would bitch about how they dont even get a watered out type r.

To the people who insists on a hardcore type r, you are probably dreamers who cant afford it anyway. Otherwise, you can buy a FD or FN for that matter, strip it and wholla, a track car!

I absolutely agree that "Type R" should be left for the track orientated Hondas. But time has changed and Honda has changed with it!

Sorry if this offends anyone, but I cant stand the FN2R bashing anymore and good luck to the FN buyers, cause I really think it is a very nice all round car!

End rant!