My civic's engine blew up Part 2

[destrukshn]

yes, i do understand the intake effects the motor.. but they did not link the blown motor and the intake together.. they did not link the cause of the intake to blow up the motor.. they said it was due to excessive revving..

everyone that has a put a aftermarket intake system in their car, HAS revved the car straight to redline, period.
what's why you get a intake, for the sound and the more power it will make a top end.

[Bob san]

everyone that has a put a aftermarket intake system in their car, HAS revved the car straight to redline, period.
what's why you get a intake, for the sound and the more power it will make a top end.

now this is where it gets tricky. you're assuming anyone with a CAI is guilty of revving the crap outta their car. well trust me even if my car was bone stock, they would still say i revved the motor till it blew up.

i have also emailed fujita in america about this. this is their reply :


Hello Jacky,

I recommend going over the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Your situation comes up here in the states often. But due to the Magnuson-Moss Act and Laws/Rules, most customers have no problem getting their car fixed or repaired.

Here are a few links for you to review:

- http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/.../warranty.shtm
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

I also recommend contacting SEMA for some helpful information. www.sema.org.

now what the reply is refering to is that in america this would fall under the Magnuson-Moss Act. also i found is a letter from K&N explaining what the Magnuson-Moss Act is and why its actully illegal for the dealers not to pay for your damages (in the US at least).

http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm

well i can't really blame them as they are an american company. kinda wish we had sema here to protect us as car ethuatist.

[destrukshn]

now this is where it gets tricky. you're assuming anyone with a CAI is guilty of revving the crap outta their car. well trust me even if my car was bone stock, they would still say i revved the motor till it blew up.

i have also emailed fujita in america about this. this is their reply :


Hello Jacky,

I recommend going over the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Your situation comes up here in the states often. But due to the Magnuson-Moss Act and Laws/Rules, most customers have no problem getting their car fixed or repaired.

Here are a few links for you to review:

- http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/.../warranty.shtm
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

I also recommend contacting SEMA for some helpful information. www.sema.org.

now what the reply is refering to is that in america this would fall under the Magnuson-Moss Act. also i found is a letter from K&N explaining what the Magnuson-Moss Act is and why its actully illegal for the dealers not to pay for your damages (in the US at least).

http://www.knfilters.com/warrantyletter.htm

well i can't really blame them as they are an american company. kinda wish we had sema here to protect us as car ethuatist.

IF your car was stock, your car would of been back on the road already, or at least have more of a chance of winning.

[uwants]

Ehh,
How could you be driving 60km/hr in 2nd gear with only 3000rev lolz?
Even in 3rd gear you will be reving 2500 for 55km/hr.
Anyway sorry to hear your story.
Try park your car on the street and wait 4 some1 2 hit u, then you can claim for insurance =)

[oniononline]

I think there is nothing much you could do at the moment, because you modified your engine, that is enough to void your warrenty, regardless how Honda treats you.

The most logical solution is to park your car in a cool dry area, and start saving for a 2nd hand engine, wait for someone to write off their car but not damanged their engine, such as hit from the side.

Try to cheat insurance would not work and will land you into deeper trouble, as you've already posted so many post here about the damage and people suggested the cheating solution.

[Bob san]

I think there is nothing much you could do at the moment, because you modified your engine, that is enough to void your warrenty, regardless how Honda treats you.

The most logical solution is to park your car in a cool dry area, and start saving for a 2nd hand engine, wait for someone to write off their car but not damanged their engine, such as hit from the side.

Try to cheat insurance would not work and will land you into deeper trouble, as you've already posted so many post here about the damage and people suggested the cheating solution.

regardless of how honda treats you? now this made me laugh

customer service is everything in the world of retail. if your gona treat your customers like crap don't expect them to come back and have good words to say about them.

[T-onedc2]

customer services' job is to take care of warranty issues, and determine whether the customer is violating the conditions. They've done nothing wrong from what you have said, so tell us what your owners manual says in the warranty schedule with regards to modifications. The answer is so clear I can't believe this thread is still going, and nowhere at that.

[Felix]

customer services' job is to take care of warranty issues, and determine whether the customer is violating the conditions. They've done nothing wrong from what you have said, so tell us what your owners manual says in the warranty schedule with regards to modifications. The answer is so clear I can't believe this thread is still going, and nowhere at that.

[sitta]

well, what you should have done at first is put your car back to stock and go to the dealer claiming the warranty, thats what i would have done..

[markCivicVti]

customer services' job is to take care of warranty issues, and determine whether the customer is violating the conditions. They've done nothing wrong from what you have said, so tell us what your owners manual says in the warranty schedule with regards to modifications. The answer is so clear I can't believe this thread is still going, and nowhere at that.

If you actually read the whole friggen thread you would know that bob_san wasn't disputing their decision to not cover his engine. He is just having a whinge about how he was treated by them through the process.

Anywho, bob_san, have you suggested to them (honda australia) that they cover part of the labour costs with the new engine out of good will?

[baeshin]

but was his car dead stock standard?
nops, so it does void the warranty, especially with a open intake in such a place where it would attract alot of dirt and water.
i remember in his previous thread that he did run through a puddle of water with a cai, and water did get int he combustion chamber, which takes a very big part of his motor giving way.
so in my point of view, honda does have the right to void his warranty, on his motor.

it's like dropping your car on bigger wheels, you have damaged the driveshafts, bearings, etc, whether the lowering and big wheels did or not, there was a chance it will, and that's what they will base it on.

you wanna mod your car, do it, but cop it in the chin if shit hits the fan really, or be smart about it, change it back to stock, before you bringing it in to service.

fahh if thats true then u prolly did fk up ur own motor...

how come honda wont give u their findings on how they knew you were excessivly revving.. get ur lawyer to try n get that at least.

i know for a fact that mechanics can prove that kinda stuff

[7ypeR]

Theres always 2 sides to every story. maybe through honda's eyes you were a young hoon, who sh*tted your own car, then thought you'd be a smart c*nt and try to rort the system. put yourself in their shoes, if someguy came into your business and tried to pull a fast one, you'd be pissed off too. I too think that had your car been stock, it would've been fixed in the first week. not too smart leaving the mods or doing the mods in the first place. cant blame you though, i woulda modded the sh*t out of it too