My civic's engine blew up Part 2

[santa3563]

Bob San,saw a couple of written off FD2 in a wrecking yard in Sydney,Hontoys in Yennora,both had side impact and engine looks ok.They said they are looking at $3-4k for the whole engine,went there cause I'm interested in the leather interior.

[disappointed]

Bit harsh boys. The water incident happened days prior, so it was not the culprit. The CAI is nothing more than a cold air intake, for the ones that don't know what that is, it's basically just a different air cleaner assembly that draws air from outside the engine compartment, not a different intake manifold, that was also not the culprit. Now the overfilling of the engine oil, that could do it... I would have thought that if Honda does not want to honour it's warranty because of the mods, then they have to prove that it was the mods that caused the engine failure. If I was you bob san I would ring the Honda wreckers as stated earlier and get a quote for supply and fit of a used engine. I'd be surprised if you couldn't pick one up for under $1500 and fitted for under $3 grand. I do agree with the fact that you would have been better off at another dealership, I know about that first hand. A good service manager would have gone into bat for you. I know of a great one if you want to know. Lastly someone mentioned a rev limiter not working during a mis shift. Thats just Bull Shit. Thats what it does. It usually cuts ignition once the pre determined revs have been reached. Good luck Bob

[destrukshn]

Bit harsh boys. The water incident happened days prior, so it was not the culprit. The CAI is nothing more than a cold air intake, for the ones that don't know what that is, it's basically just a different air cleaner assembly that draws air from outside the engine compartment, not a different intake manifold, that was also not the culprit. Now the overfilling of the engine oil, that could do it... I would have thought that if Honda does not want to honour it's warranty because of the mods, then they have to prove that it was the mods that caused the engine failure. If I was you bob san I would ring the Honda wreckers as stated earlier and get a quote for supply and fit of a used engine. I'd be surprised if you couldn't pick one up for under $1500 and fitted for under $3 grand. I do agree with the fact that you would have been better off at another dealership, I know about that first hand. A good service manager would have gone into bat for you. I know of a great one if you want to know. Lastly someone mentioned a rev limiter not working during a mis shift. Thats just Bull Shit. Thats what it does. It usually cuts ignition once the pre determined revs have been reached. Good luck Bob

why wouldn't it be the culprit?
it may have done enough damage for it to weaken the components, and then giving way days later.
lol.

[markCivicVti]

why wouldn't it be the culprit?

How do you know it is? Even honda didn't say it was due to water that entered in through the CAI...

(I'm not saying that it wasn't.. but you can't assume that is was)

I also think you should get an engine from a wreckers if they are as cheap as 3/4 grand. I wonder if the FD2's K20 would be an easy swap... at least they are both DBW.. just make sure you get its ECU as well.

Actually.. forget about the k20.. get the r18a... atleast then you have the engine mounts and all that already in place. Would be a lot simpler.

[disappointed]

why wouldn't it be the culprit?
it may have done enough damage for it to weaken the components, and then giving way days later.
lol.

If you are refering to the water, It would have gone straight away, damage done is damage done. Water damage would be evident in the combustion chamber, Honda would have told him about that straight away. In years gone by, mechanics used to pour litres of water down the carby to decarbon the valves, and pistons.

[bennjamin]

An engine can be weakened by a small amount of water and within X amount of ks just give up / seize or fail. That is , a small amount of water. Not that this matters facts are

Car owner used aftermarket parts against hondas T+C.
engine blew up.
honda isnt paying.

[disappointed]

An engine can be weakened by a small amount of water and within X amount of ks just give up / seize or fail. That is , a small amount of water. Not that this matters facts are

Car owner used aftermarket parts against hondas T+C.
engine blew up.
honda isnt paying.

Not from my experience.

[disappointed]

Maybe, if you own a Honda, you should't be driving while it's raining. Make sure there are no puddles on the road, in fact maybe we shouldn't wash the dam things.

[dc2dc2dc2]

Yeah...

Maybe you should sell your Honda, if you hate them so much.

[destrukshn]

If you are refering to the water, It would have gone straight away, damage done is damage done. Water damage would be evident in the combustion chamber, Honda would have told him about that straight away. In years gone by, mechanics used to pour litres of water down the carby to decarbon the valves, and pistons.

lol.
no, it can weaken them.
and then after a while, it still give way.
it doesn't have to give way on the spot.

mechanics USED to.
lol.
tell them to do it now, they use something called, carby cleaner.
lol.

[destrukshn]

How do you know it is? Even honda didn't say it was due to water that entered in through the CAI...

(I'm not saying that it wasn't.. but you can't assume that is was)

I also think you should get an engine from a wreckers if they are as cheap as 3/4 grand. I wonder if the FD2's K20 would be an easy swap... at least they are both DBW.. just make sure you get its ECU as well.

Actually.. forget about the k20.. get the r18a... atleast then you have the engine mounts and all that already in place. Would be a lot simpler.

yeah i can assume it is, because he said so himself.
lol.

[dc2dc2dc2]

Nah mate.

I woudln't wanna buy your car probably end up like ur mates.