My civic's engine blew up Part 2

[Benson]

Enough already with this nonsense. Go by yourself a second hand engine approx $1500.00 from Hontoys in Sydney 0297294400 with low ks and fit it and be done.

Agreed

[oniononline]

Bludger,,,, another ning nong. You are confusing the Red Line, with the Rev Limiter. You do realize that school didn't finish with primary school, yes.

Sorry, my bad, please don't try it on the freeway, you could kill more people.

So find an empty long road and try this in order: and please DO NOT reply untill you've tried it.

Steps:
1) Bring a mobile with you and make sure someone knows where you are going
2) Find an empty road
3) Make sure you are the only person in the car
4) buckle your seat belt and setup & secure a video recorder in the car
5) Drive up to 100km/h in 5th gear(in a 100 zone)
6) Press your clutch all the way down
7) Shift your gear to 1st position while still holding your clutch and driving at 100km/h
8) Make sure there is no car behind you
9) Quickly remove your foot from the clutch
10) If you are still alive, please put the video onto youtube and paste the link here, this would be your final project and we may reward you for your great effort for such a bravery scientific experiment

[disappointed]

Onion,,, WTF are you on about. Put the Bong down for awhile and try and to make some sense.

[bennjamin]

calm down guys. Keep the personal attacks and irrelevant posting to pm please.


BTW mishifting is possible , but hardly from 5th to 1st. And it can destroy an engine , pulling the engine to match road speed and RPM to something byound the preset redline. Bang. Is this the case for failed engine ? the thread starter wont say.

[VTECMACHINE]

yes. im not angry about this anymore. so over it. its time to move on. time to get the R i'd always wanted...

thanks for all the comments guys. im getting my car fixed soon and lets just say its not gona be a 11g job.

well ive already learned that this is all just a phase i have to go through in life. SXXT happens.

and the engine its probably a write off. i don't know for sure what happened and what parts from the engine are missing.since honda didn't even bother telling me what they removed from my engine.

ive had mecahnics looked at it and it would probably be cheaper to replace it then to fix it.

Dude, I honestly would not take that sh*t from Honda!

It's one thing to not be able to claim warrenty due to modifiying your car (I actually agree with Honda on that one, sorry). But if they took apart the engine, and took parts from it with out your authority that's seriously uncalled for! Have you paid for the diagonostics etc? You can look at this as yeah it's life, etc etc... but mate this is an asset, which they have damaged in their holding yard, and taken parts of your engine, with no report handed to you what so ever!!!

I would honestly take this to court, and inform the media ASAP.

[disappointed]

(QUOTE) BTW mishifting is possible , but hardly from 5th to 1st. And it can destroy an engine , pulling the engine to match road speed and RPM to something byound the preset redline. Bang. Is this the case for failed engine ? the thread starter wont say.[/QUOTE]

Mis-shifting is ofcourse possible, as you say not at 100km/h from 5th to 1st. But I don't agree that you can go beyond the rev limiter without fiddling with the computer.

[bennjamin]

But I don't agree that you can go beyond the rev limiter without fiddling with the computer.

yup technically you cant adjust the rev limiter in anyway , without adjusting via another computer or piggyback.
you can and will "pull" the car beyound the rev limiter by "mishifting" IE its a zone where the engine is not designed to go.Invariably = bang.

[Bludger]

(QUOTE) BTW mishifting is possible , but hardly from 5th to 1st. And it can destroy an engine , pulling the engine to match road speed and RPM to something byound the preset redline. Bang. Is this the case for failed engine ? the thread starter wont say.

Mis-shifting is ofcourse possible, as you say not at 100km/h from 5th to 1st. But I don't agree that you can go beyond the rev limiter without fiddling with the computer.

so, you finally agree with us on the over-rev/engine go bang theory




but you still go on about the rev limiter, in which case, we were never referring to that in the 1st place...

[disappointed]

I don't understand what you are saying Bludger. I don't agree at all. Bennjamin, where did you get this info. Again it is impossible to over rev the engine under any circumstance because the fuel or ignition is cut off. Car manufacturers build these safe guards into their vehicles.

[oniononline]

(QUOTE) BTW mishifting is possible , but hardly from 5th to 1st. And it can destroy an engine , pulling the engine to match road speed and RPM to something byound the preset redline. Bang. Is this the case for failed engine ? the thread starter wont say.

Mis-shifting is ofcourse possible, as you say not at 100km/h from 5th to 1st. But I don't agree that you can go beyond the rev limiter without fiddling with the computer.[/QUOTE]

Mate, what he meant was it is unlikely for people to accidently mis-shift from 5 to 1, they are so far apart, but physically it can be done. Only stupid people with IQ lower than 50 would do it, because it will blow up your engine.

Let me put it into simple english.

You are half correct, the compupter only stops you from reving beyond say 6000rpm, so if you are on 3rd gear, it is not possible to rev beyond that without shifting. However, if you are driving at 3000rpm on 5th gear at 120km/h, and physically shift the gear onto 1st, while the car still rolling at 120km/h, what do you think it would happen?

ok, let me answer it, your car will try to roll at 120km/h for a very short period, maybe 1/10th a sec, then you will slow down very fast, the gear resistance is too high, the wheels are generating too much torque back to the engine, in result, the weakest link in your drive tran will fail and you WILL HEAR BANG!

Second theory, drive your car all the way to the top of the hill, and turn off your engine, put your car into 5th gar and try to roll down. According to your engine ignition off theory, the car shouldn't roll right? Because no petrol is burnt. Please think again. Now when you are rolling faster enough, try to shift it back to 1st gear, still with engine off.

[disappointed]

Onion. As soon as the revs go lower than the set point ignition and or fuel starts up instantaneously. Secondly you will physically not be able to move the gear lever into first gear at 100km/h.

[oniononline]

Onion. As soon as the revs go lower than the set point ignition and or fuel starts up instantaneously. Secondly you will physically not be able to move you gear lever into first gear at 100km/h.

Have you driven a manual car? Or should I say are you driving a manual car?

I am driving a manual car, I'm telling you, you are physically possible to shift 5th into 1st, but my IQ is higher than 50, so I would not do it.

I think we are unable to convince you in theory, I know it is unethical to tell you to do this this but as I said before, please don't talk about not possible to shift until you have tried even we warned you that you could damange your car.