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					  Originally Posted by  Lukezen27
					 
				 
				How about just upgradint the con rods from the sump? 
  
This is main problems with boosted D's yeah? 
  
Thanks bro 
			
		 
	 
 Dont bother man. Ur turbo kit is the weak link. Ur kit cant make enough power to wreck ur engine. 
 
If u want more power, ull need a bigger turbo, then a manifold for the turbo, then exhaust fixed to position, charge pipes redone in position, retune (and possibly new computer [emanage only can to 150% stock fuel injectors i think]), waterlines hooked up. Thats just off the top of my head, theres a few thousand there. 
 
So, if ur gonna do all that, then by all means do ur bottom end
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  aimre
					 
				 
				Dont bother man. Ur turbo kit is the weak link. Ur kit cant make enough power to wreck ur engine. 
 
If u want more power, ull need a bigger turbo, then a manifold for the turbo, then exhaust fixed to position, charge pipes redone in position, retune (and possibly new computer [emanage only can to 150% stock fuel injectors i think]), waterlines hooked up. Thats just off the top of my head, theres a few thousand there. 
 
So, if ur gonna do all that, then by all means do ur bottom end 
			
		 
	 
 Hey Alex 
 
There's a lot of guys in the US running this kit at 14-15psi that have just changed the con rod bolts and bearings, maybe oil pump is stop the bearings seizing  due to oil starvation  
 
You don't think is worth is for the extra 4 or 5 psi? 
 
Cheers 
 
Luke
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Lukezen27
					 
				 
				Hey Alex 
 
There's a lot of guys in the US running this kit at 14-15psi that have just changed the con rod bolts and bearings, maybe oil pump is stop the bearings seizing  due to oil starvation  
 
You don't think is worth is for the extra 4 or 5 psi? 
 
Cheers 
 
Luke 
			
		 
	 
 People run 1bar on stock internals. Upgrading rod bolts will do nothing, they are not the weak link. Same with bearings. THe weak link is the con-rod thickness. Overpowering them will bend them. What numbers are overpowering them?? The general concensious not to go any futher then 150-160kW on a stock bottom.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Weq
					 
				 
				People run 1bar on stock internals. Upgrading rod bolts will do nothing, they are not the weak link. Same with bearings. THe weak link is the con-rod thickness. Overpowering them will bend them. What numbers are overpowering them?? The general concensious not to go any futher then 150-160kW on a stock bottom. 
			
		 
	 
   
Cool 
  
upgrading just the con rods and bearing would yield good power gains then if it can be done from the sump and not having to remover the head again?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Lukezen27
					 
				 
				Cool 
  
upgrading just the con rods and bearing would yield good power gains then if it can be done from the sump and not having to remover the head again? 
			
		 
	 
 No on both cases. YOu need to pull the change the rods.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  Lukezen27
					 
				 
				Hey Alex 
 
There's a lot of guys in the US running this kit at 14-15psi that have just changed the con rod bolts and bearings, maybe oil pump is stop the bearings seizing  due to oil starvation  
 
You don't think is worth is for the extra 4 or 5 psi? 
 
Cheers 
 
Luke 
			
		 
	 
 Like i told u. Run 14-15 psi on stock internals. But i have the compressor map for the td04h and 14psi is right on the edge of 70% run more and it drops significantly to like off the map. U can max out the turbo with stock internals. 
 
Here, you can work it out. 
 
  
 
 
 
 
John, why dont ppl listen?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  aimre
					 
				 
				Like i told u. Run 14-15 psi on stock internals. But i have the compressor map for the td04h and 14psi is right on the edge of 70% run more and it drops significantly to like off the map. U can max out the turbo with stock internals. 
 
Here, you can work it out. 
 
John, why dont ppl listen? 
			
		 
	 
 Thanks Alex but I've already got the flow map lol 
 
I don't mind buying a bigger turbo and better manifold down the track. 
 
I'm just throwing ideas out there... 
 
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							dunno about 15PSI on a stock motor though.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							with this setup that lukensz has, what do u rekon the highest psi, could boost to widout doing damage.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							reliable enuf. not to be changing things all the time.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							10-11 PSI, i was there when he was tuning it.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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