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  1. #109
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    Quote Originally Posted by yfin View Post
    I think you make a fair comment. I went to a dyno day where my almost stock euro (lightweight rims) was on the dyno compared to another stock euro. My euro dynoed almost 20% higher peak numbers than the other euro (both 6mt). Was my car 20% more powerful? No way. The Euro is temperamental with its power and I don't trust dyno numbers anyway. Real world rolling acceleration figures are far more convincing.

    The Euro is the only car I have owned that is like jekyl and hyde. Some days it will rev its **** off - other days it feels weak. I know temp, pressure all make a difference but the Euro seems to be up and down more than any other car I have driven.
    Yeah,its true man,2 stock Kseries engines side by side with large discrepancies in power,once the knock sensor is disabled the differences all but disappear,glad someone believes me.Honda did a booboo with the K series knock sensor

    Ohhh...im back again

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    Wouldn't disabling the knock sensor potentially cause problems though, after all it's there for a reason (isn't it)?
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  3. #111
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXer View Post
    btw aarong,those AF's are shocking,i think the measuring device was wrong somehow
    It depends on which dyno you use and also the exhaust gas sensor that is used. I have another dyno done at a different place which shows my A/F ratio to be an average of 12.5:1.
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  4. #112
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    The Kpro disables it,but leaves u with a flashing CEL if it detects knock,so u can monitor it.They leave it up to the good judgement of the tuner to safely tune the engine to as close to the edge as they dare.

    I disabled mine (B series) cos it was giving me intermittent hassles,but i also trust my tuner as well.

    Hondas tunes are fairly conservative,if i had a Kseries i would disable it.Prob throw it on the dyno as a precaution to see whats actually goin on.

    I think hondata are the only ones that have any insight at all into the Kseries knock sensor workings atm,i could be wrong,so it would be quite difficult to just go ahead & disable it,without say a Kpro.

    Should ask what the Jtune products do with the knock sensor

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    It depends on which dyno you use and also the exhaust gas sensor that is used. I have another dyno done at a different place which shows my A/F ratio to be an average of 12.5:1.
    Thats much better,i thought that one above looked a bit odd.

  6. #114
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    i would love to run K-Pro on my baby.... but i gotta sort out a way to get the K-Pro to run with DBW as i dont think they can?

    anyways... Here is the video!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOMVK5DzcFs
    Last edited by EUR003act; 03-06-2008 at 11:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EUR003act View Post
    i would love to run K-Pro on my baby.... but i gotta sort out a way to get the K-Pro to run with DBW as i dont think they can?

    anyways... Here is the video!!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOMVK5DzcFs
    what exhaust u runnin?
    sounds a bit like my vtec cross on the skunk exhaust

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    Sounds good! Sounds like a CAI to me. Different to mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19wN4fWFqs

    You can run k-pro on the Euro. You need a k20A ECU and the custom piggyback harness. That was the setup that jtune was using to show off the extreme in their test cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXer View Post
    what exhaust u runnin?
    sounds a bit like my vtec cross on the skunk exhaust
    stock exhaust yay honda!

    Quote Originally Posted by aaronng View Post
    Sounds good! Sounds like a CAI to me. Different to mine. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q19wN4fWFqs

    You can run k-pro on the Euro. You need a k20A ECU and the custom piggyback harness. That was the setup that jtune was using to show off the extreme in their test cars.
    nice vid! and thanx, i love her sound at the moment

    hmmmm i might have to look into getting my hands on a k20a ecu

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    Current Base Tune (A/F control parameters only), note that when the car was dynoed stock on the same Dyno, it came in at a rather insignificant 105Kws... Must be a weekend special
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    whoaaaaaaaaaaa. Congrats Nick!

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    What's the camchange RPM?
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