Polish and wax help

**aaronng** · 05-12-2007 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by markCivicVti

^ Yeah. Well... is there any technique that works well with these 'waterless' ways of washing the car?

Or are they really no good then? I don't remember the details now but there was this product that you mix in with water.. and apparently you don't have to rinse off. Apparently you can do it in the garage. Would this be better than meguires waterless wash? Or would it end up doing the same sort of damage since you still buff it dry?

The product you are thinking about is QEW. It is still a 2 bucket wash. You remove dirt with one and then the 2nd bucket is sort of a rinse except that you rinse by wiping with the wet mitt instead of splashing.

With waterless washes, you wipe the paint dry after washing and that's it. If you want to buff til it is shiny, apply some wax first.

**amirul** · 05-12-2007 03:24 PM

i have always done mine in circular motion............i use Turtle Wax and finish it off with Meguiars quik detailer.......work for me.

**markCivicVti** · 05-12-2007 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

The product you are thinking about is QEW. It is still a 2 bucket wash. You remove dirt with one and then the 2nd bucket is sort of a rinse except that you rinse by wiping with the wet mitt instead of splashing.

With waterless washes, you wipe the paint dry after washing and that's it. If you want to buff til it is shiny, apply some wax first.

Thanks! I don't care how many buckets I need as long as I can do it in the garage then

But for the meanwhile I'll try megs waterless... and not buff it dry... just wipe it gently dry... then do the wax + buff.

**Shimian** · 05-12-2007 09:28 PM

Ever since i bought the mothers wax attack machine, my car is still smooth and shiny after one month. It rained during that time and all i did was take it to the car wash and rinsed the car thoroughly. Then chamois'd it good. Did this about 3 times during the month and still retains its silky smooth shine. Compared to hand waxing days, pretty much after 1 wash, wax all gone and back to rough nuts surface

**aaronng** · 05-12-2007 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Shimian

Ever since i bought the mothers wax attack machine, my car is still smooth and shiny after one month. It rained during that time and all i did was take it to the car wash and rinsed the car thoroughly. Then chamois'd it good. Did this about 3 times during the month and still retains its silky smooth shine. Compared to hand waxing days, pretty much after 1 wash, wax all gone and back to rough nuts surface

That's the advantage of having a clean surface before waxing. The Mother's wax attack pads also clean the paint while you are applying the wax.

**Shimian** · 05-12-2007 10:02 PM

I always clean my car before i wax. Take it to car wash and spend about $6-$8. I go around thoroughly. Also wash the underside edge of the car where it is pretty much black.

When i wax by hand, i always take my time and try to do a good job. Result, as i mentioned. With mothers, its the mint

**AzKik-R** · 11-12-2007 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by aaronng

Claybars are not designed to be used that often. They are still abrasive and do cause marring to your paint. The normal claybar that you buy is meant to be used once or twice a year. If you want to use it every month, you have to buy a fine claybar instead which is less "wearing" to the paint.

one of my mates in U.S and A sent me over some really nice clay and the sprey stuff even says it can be used over and over without damaging your paint

**FAT VTI** · 12-06-2008 04:02 PM

to eliminate swirls.
(this is gr8 for windows too).
apply going vertically on your panel.
allow to penetrate.
clean off in a HORIZONTAL motion using a CLEAN terry towel or microfibre.
this means, you are not just smearing the same streaks, ur actually going against them and eliminating them.

**aaronng** · 12-06-2008 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by FAT VTI

to eliminate swirls.
(this is gr8 for windows too).
apply going vertically on your panel.
allow to penetrate.
clean off in a HORIZONTAL motion using a CLEAN terry towel or microfibre.
this means, you are not just smearing the same streaks, ur actually going against them and eliminating them.

What do you mean by penetrate? I don't see that eliminating swirls. Hiding swirls, yes.

**FAT VTI** · 12-06-2008 05:29 PM

penetrate, leave on, let it soak in.

you put it on in 1 vertical motion, and take it off in a horizontal motion.

eliminate or hide swirls? whats the difference?