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  1. #157
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benson View Post
    slicks will fix all launching issues.
    This is true. Even peg legging it, slicks makes things a no brainer. Stage, foot flat too the floor, preload, sidestep clutch. Hold the limiter, till your wheel speed matches your car speed, shift, do the same, shift, hookup and you are sitting at a 12 second pass.
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    lyle u havent driven a b series na car on the track especially willowbank yet have u? i think u are wrong in this point
    stickiest track in oz
    hard to explain to some one who hasnt
    i have own turbo cars b4 so i know the diffence between the two
    and 4wd cars and rwds cars all turbos so i think i would know the difference
    like i said at 0-5500 u have no power on the track and u bog down
    similar to turbos having no boost or boost lag
    its that simple vtec cars are tourque less below that power band
    i think luke has to fix many things to get the times the car should be capable off
    but it comes down to it having the d series running gear not been able to cope with all that extra power he has
    like mention before what he needs to do and hopefully drop his times when he goes next time
    but isnt a street car suppose to run on the track like how it is on the street ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    lyle u havent driven a b series na car on the track especially willowbank yet have u? i think u are wrong in this point
    stickiest track in oz
    hard to explain to some one who hasnt
    i have own turbo cars b4 so i know the diffence between the two
    and 4wd cars and rwds cars all turbos so i think i would know the difference
    like i said at 0-5500 u have no power on the track and u bog down
    similar to turbos having no boost or boost lag
    its that simple vtec cars are tourque less below that power band
    i think luke has to fix many things to get the times the car should be capable off
    but it comes down to it having the d series running gear not been able to cope with all that extra power he has
    like mention before what he needs to do and hopefully drop his times when he goes next time
    but isnt a street car suppose to run on the track like how it is on the street ?
    I have experience with:

    FWD NA Bseries / FI
    FWD NA Dseries / FI

    AWD Turbo
    RWD NA/FI

    They dont compare. Let alone the engine chractoristics of each platform.

    2nd, 'D-series running gear'. Pull your head out. Stop commenting on subjects that are above your level. Go back to the lounge AND/OR peddling your wears.
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    so why does he need to upgrade to a new and lsd
    would it be any good if he used the d series gearbox to drag
    any way thats the time he got so no point arguing about it
    just has to do better next time
    maybe u should pull your finger out mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Weq View Post
    This is true. Even peg legging it, slicks makes things a no brainer. Stage, foot flat too the floor, preload, sidestep clutch. Hold the limiter, till your wheel speed matches your car speed, shift, do the same, shift, hookup and you are sitting at a 12 second pass.
    You will not get the best 60ft times with this method. Even in an NA car you cannot do this and expect the best times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90LAN View Post
    so why does he need to upgrade to a new and lsd
    would it be any good if he used the d series gearbox to drag
    any way thats the time he got so no point arguing about it
    just has to do better next time
    maybe u should pull your finger out mate
    I dont speak JDM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy rooster View Post
    You will not get the best 60ft times with this method. Even in an NA car you cannot do this and expect the best times.
    Its actually not my method. A few years back the guys a turbod16 did a comparison at the track. They launched a car at various RPMs, multiple times to see what acheived the best results.

    Time and time again, the best ET's where achieved via this method.

    Oh and this is also the best method for a street trimmed car, without upgraded driveline components. Slicks are a great way to snap axels and sheer gears. So you comphremise 60ft for reliablity. Spin it off the line, get them sticky to grab the other gears.

    PS. Im not talking about drag application. Im talking about a street trimmed car, running stock engine, stockish components, looking for the best ET's. Actually this method yeilded best 60fts. I cant find the videos, cause the site seems to have disapeared.
    Last edited by Weq; 27-06-2008 at 02:58 PM.
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    Remember we arnt talking about much power hear. 6800rpm with a few psi of boost is not even pushing 90kW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CRXer View Post
    Yes,i know what anti-lag is,and since you are specifically talking about launching,it does fall under the category of launch controller.They are not 2 different features as such.They both limit the engine to a desired rpm by way of fuel cut for limiter only, &/or ignition cut for also having the ability to build boost via unburned fuel mix going off in the hot exhaust manifold.

    If u want to get technical,the gizzmo & such,are not proper anti-lag since they only achieve it via ignition cut.Proper anti-lag,involves seperate modes in the engine managment with completely different fuel & ignition maps reading off sensors such as TPS,MAP,clutch switch,etc to achieve anti-lag at any rpm or engine load.

    Im also sure luke doesnt want the repercussions of running anti-lag,which can include reduced turbo life,dropped exhaust valves,severly reduced cat convertor life & more.Having said that,people are still using it on mildly tuned engines & getting away with it to certain extents,but the end results will come.

    "launch controllers" also do not work with mild builds,you can do a much better job yourself.

    It does sound awesome however & produces some nice flames without the cat in place.

    BTW,u make driving & launching a front drive boosted car sound like some sort of black art,it really isnt that hard or different to an NA version,its not until u get to AWD's & large turbos that it gets tricky with boost.

    Anyway,back on topic,

    The turbo D, squatting for all its worth


    Thanks for that mate. I didnt actually know much about Anti-Lag and how different systems worked. Only What the feature was and the benefits of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sexc86 View Post
    Thanks for that mate. I didnt actually know much about Anti-Lag and how different systems worked. Only What the feature was and the benefits of it.

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    CRXer posted a few pages back
    Light up with Lyle - Electrical / Communications / Instrumentation

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    CRXer where did you get the pic man?
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