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 Originally Posted by dsp26
"Always look at where you need to be" coz you will always end up where your looking.... and then i also see fully hectic written off cars hitting a light pole... explains a lot huh?
It's given a technical name in the MC world - Target Fixation. Happens all the time on motorcycles, and to a lesser extent in cars (when you're out of control in a car it doesn't matter where you look).
Always look through a corner.
It's not a f*cking Prelude.
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If I could go back in time, I'd get a VTR250 as a learners bike and then upgrade to a 750 before my son was born. Now I am stuck with an NSR250 that has a rebuilt motor sitting on the workbench and a Mrs that wont let me put it back in the frame. I fell in love with the NSR and kept it way past my P's when I should have sold it and gone for more cc's.
Sorry, but I generally tend to disagree with those of you who recommend getting a POS as a 1st bike. No learner wants the frustration of having their bike spending more time in the workshop than on the road (unless you're pretty handy with a spanner). I'd recommend newbs getting a used but fairly new model bike that has decent performance/handling/braking with a good resale value (like say a VTR250  ).
But, depending on your body size/height, you may be limited in the choice of bike that suits you. For example, some bikes have a very high ride hieght and you might not be tall enough to plant both feet on the ground when you are stationary or if you are too tall, some sport/race seat positioned bikes may be too cramped and you might find your knees touching you ear lobes (ok a bit exaggerated, but you get my point).
And make sure you get the right gear! Don't get me started on helmet selection 
Rant over... for now
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Laijer, I agree with you with the VTR250, but nowhere did we say "get a garage queen". A bike that runs is a bike that runs.
If you ever need "persuasion" to get that motor back in the frame, drop me a line 
It's not a f*cking Prelude.
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Fair enough. We'll agree that cheap and reliable are best
Thanks for the offer, I might take you up on it... oh in about a year or 2 when my wife's overprotective motherley feelings are not so intense. We've just had a baby boy and the Mrs has banned me from putting the bike back together unless it's to sell it - No way Jose!
Last edited by laijer; 12-08-2008 at 12:32 PM.
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 2008 Honda CBR125R
Best learner legal bike is Honda CBR125R
looks like a CBR600RR and 14HP and 140KM/h Top speed
I love it so much and go ahead and brought one to learn and commute on.
$4200 ride-away on the road i pay, with helmet and gloves.
best bike!
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^140km/h??
lol
id like to see that happen...
maybe som1 light could get it up to 120, but any1 heavy would have trouble going over 100..
imo, it doesnt look anything like a cbr600, lol
its like 1/4 of the size
but i agree with u, excellent learners bike
easy to use, cant make too many mistakes with it, cheap and reliable
wat more could u want
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Originally Posted by krogoth
^140km/h??
lol
id like to see that happen...
maybe som1 light could get it up to 120, but any1 heavy would have trouble going over 100..
imo, it doesnt look anything like a cbr600, lol
its like 1/4 of the size
but i agree with u, excellent learners bike
easy to use, cant make too many mistakes with it, cheap and reliable
wat more could u want
As I said before I wouldnt go to a 125cc for a couple of reasons. Firstly it is not a very large bike (means you get blown around more, plus while handling can be better makes it a big jump when you upgrade to a 600cc) and the second reason is power (while I am not advocating that you need a large bike, there is a heck of an upgrade eg from a 125cc-600cc compared to less of a jump between a 250-600).
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Originally Posted by ludecrs
They have the depreciation re-sale value of a burnt out and multi-rolled Commodore.
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^yeh ur right
but personally, i dont know how ppl can spend 5-7k on a 2000 year old cbr
the best choice in the end is to go for a new vtr250 or something
u can get one new for around 7k
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Originally Posted by krogoth
^yeh ur right
but personally, i dont know how ppl can spend 5-7k on a 2000 year old cbr
the best choice in the end is to go for a new vtr250 or something
u can get one new for around 7k
I think even better is to avoid new. I know lots of people think that they avoid problems if they get a new bike etc, but considering you only hold a learner bike for a year you are much better off getting a good condition bike that is not to old. Vtr250 = good choice though 
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Originally Posted by ludecrs
They have the depreciation re-sale value of a burnt out and multi-rolled Commodore.
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And new doesn't necessarily mean it won't break down. The name Hyosung just springs to mind for some strange reason.
It's not a f*cking Prelude.
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should change this in to get the VTR250 bike thread, its been recommended so many times, never ridden one myself but from what i heard there a great bike to start out on, and have an EXCELLENT resale value!
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I agree.. And when it does break down good luck with getting parts for them.
Thats why a Honda would be the best option.
CBR125 - VTR250 - CB400 - would be a good order to follow.
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