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IMO washing hands, and removing content are too different things.
Washing hands legally and sweeping it under the carpet are two different things.
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^^ yup, i agree.
if ozhonda started letting posts about services go through, could u imagine the content? 90% of service related posts are usually negative, cos ppl had a bad experience they vent it out. when they have an average or exceptionally good one, they probably won't post about it at all... then this will eventually lead to spam from outsiders trying to promote products/businesses. just like the majority of technical or model related threads, they're usually about ppls problems... not about how great a part is. that doesn't happen often. see a trend here?
as for getting involved with buys and ppl getting ripped off... that's just ridiculous imo. it's your purchase, your risk. it's the internet for goodness sake... if you're willing to fork out that $500 to buy something you only saw a picture of, then that's the risk you're taking. it's your responsibility to calculate the risk... good feedback for a person and general knowledge of their dealings would be a low risk transaction - any smart person would know that. but when someone is careless and gets ripped off (either out of misfortune or simply being stupid), ozhonda has no responsibility in stepping in and protecting anyone. at the end of the day, the world isn't perfect... ppl get jibbed all the time. that's the way things are so i'd say get over it.
oh, and if you have such a big problem with the way things are run here, please go ahead and find an alternative site to play with. ozhonda forces no one to stay, they have their rules and ways... if u don't like it, speak up... if you still can't stand it, leave and you will be in peace.
btw, i used to be a mod too... from day one, this site has only grown more mature. i only quit cos i had no time. keep it up guys.
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http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=98129
Gee i'd like to know what trader was doing this to Joe. As i'm looking for wheels at the moment too, and will probably buy used/near new.
I wish ozhonda would help a fellow honda driver not get ripped off and waste hard earned money.
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^ YOu can find out who the trader is.... simply by PM'n the OP.
We're not stopping you from doing so, its the simple fact that defamation claims cannot and will not be allowed to be published on these boards.
Its a legality.
Tom says: "Now remember kids, offsets are like women... they are best in their teens."
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exactly. We as moderators allow the user to find out quite easily. Simply pm as requested or check trade feedback Its not that hard.
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isn't it possible for ozhonda to pass the buck onto the individual poster if a defemation case was to arise, by adding some clauses to the all might T&C?
That way ozhonda members get what they want , and ozhonda doesn't have to be paranoid about legalities and will have to do less moderating/editing of posts.
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 Originally Posted by JasonGilholme
isn't it possible for ozhonda to pass the buck onto the individual poster if a defemation case was to arise, by adding some clauses to the all might T&C?
That way ozhonda members get what they want , and ozhonda doesn't have to be paranoid about legalities and will have to do less moderating/editing of posts.
Im sure we wouldve taken that route if it were really that simple..
This is a board... a forum...
We (ozhonda) is responsible for whatever is published within it.
Its not a simple matter of blaming the OP for posting such rubbish.
Eg, a newspaper with a reporter that wrote a really subjective article about a business...
Not only will the reporter get fcked, but the paper too for it allowed such an article to be published.
Same sorta deal here.
Tom says: "Now remember kids, offsets are like women... they are best in their teens."
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you refer to If a case went to court , and a person/business was deemed guilty ? Im sure that would be posted all thru the internet lands and i personally hav no issue against that.
But until then , EVERYTHING defamatory , stating an exact name or location of an individual or business is not allowed , to cover Ozhonda and its members.
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that's unfortunate for Joe but good on him for not publicly defaming... i don't know the whole story, but like i mentioned before there's always a risk. i'm sure he would have seen the item before paying $1500 for them, and if he did his research he might have known they weren't exactly what he wanted. on the other hand, if it is such that this trader is not trading fairly and things become extreme, then i'm sure Wyn would step in. he controls who trades on this site, and i'm sure if he finds a trader is no longer being responsible for their business, he can simply remove them.
anyway, Joe can leave negative feedback for his buy... it's like ebay - if the trader wants to keep his feedback positive, he will do what's needed. if not, bad feedback will eventually lead to no business.
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Originally Posted by Q_ball
Eg, a newspaper with a reporter that wrote a really subjective article about a business...
Not only will the reporter get fcked, but the paper too for it allowed such an article to be published.
Same sorta deal here.
but doesn't the fact that the person that wrote it is an employee "a representative of the company" have some to do with the matter?
whereas here on ozhonda we are 'members' of a community, which just so happens to be web based?
its like if someone posts defamatroy comments on their website, is their hosting company going to be sued because they are the ones who are hosting it? (the same way ozhonda hosts our posts?)
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Originally Posted by EK9
it's like ebay
its not like ebay, ebay intervenes where neccessary on fraudulent sales. ozhonda refuses to.
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Originally Posted by JasonGilholme
its like if someone posts defamatroy comments on their website, is their hosting company going to be sued because they are the ones who are hosting it? (the same way ozhonda hosts our posts?)
Dont quote me this is my current knowledge -
Ozhonda itself can be sued for hosting such information upon its forum. Not the actual host of Ozhonda or its database. The poster if proven can be sued as well. Depends how far a business or individual is willing to push with legal proceedings.
Yet again , to avoid such issues We edit out defamatory comments. Simple.
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