be nice if there were more sa people on here selling/riding bikes ill have to commando it and solo the whole bike industry bwahhahaha. one thing on my side is that i work for honda, and so far in my car buying experience the sales guy shits himself and stops trying to pitch me cuz he knows i can see thro his bs, quite useful, not sure if it will work in bike shops tho.

thers a bike shop very close to my house (ones a duca dealer and ones a honda/seadoo) so ill go and putter around there on friday, get a feel. they have a couple vtrs for 5000 and 7000 so ill have a look.