***K24Z1 project teaser***

[Crapdaz]

It would definitely help. You can get an emanage ultimate installed and tuned for around $1500-$2000

Piggybacks aren't as flexible or as precise as many of the stand alone ecu's and are generally for cars with more basic bolt-on mods. I'm not sure how it would handle a new head/cams but it's something worth looking into.

i got quoted for about $1300 for tuned and sourced it myself.

But yeh sounds about right, that piggybacks arent as good as standalone ecus but works.

[kingfoo]

After I've finished doing my mods I'm going to get a VAFC2 (& Tune) as it's compatible with both iVTEC and VTC.

[Chris_F]

i got quoted for about $1300 for tuned and sourced it myself.

But yeh sounds about right, that piggybacks arent as good as standalone ecus but works.

Damn, that's a good price!

EUR003act, now there's no reason you can't spend 1300 and get the thing tuned given the outlay on parts so far!

After I've finished doing my mods I'm going to get a VAFC2 (& Tune) as it's compatible with both iVTEC and VTC.

I thought the factory ecu is able to relearn with the VAFC2 (basically wiping the tune)

[Suntzu]

Haltech might be good for me as Ive already got a 5000rpm vtec point...hmmm

[Chris_F]

^ awesome idea. I never thought of the flash/piggyback combination. Chances are you'll be able to achieve a more agressive tune with the flashed ecu.

[aaronng]

After I've finished doing my mods I'm going to get a VAFC2 (& Tune) as it's compatible with both iVTEC and VTC.

VAFC2 doesn't allow you to alter ignition timing and control the VTC.

[Euro08Jaz]

i guess its easy to assume that its not worth the money to tune an NA car compared to a turbo, 15kw to 5000,

i dont understand much about ecu tuning but do you need a stand alone unit? couldn't the results be achieved by tuning a stock ecu?

[aaronng]

i guess its easy to assume that its not worth the money to tune an NA car compared to a turbo, 15kw to 5000,

i dont understand much about ecu tuning but do you need a stand alone unit? couldn't the results be achieved by tuning a stock ecu?

You can't tune a stock ECU.

[Chris_F]

i guess its easy to assume that its not worth the money to tune an NA car compared to a turbo, 15kw to 5000,

i dont understand much about ecu tuning but do you need a stand alone unit? couldn't the results be achieved by tuning a stock ecu?

You're never going to make as much power NA but that doesn't mean it's not worth it.

10-15kw can be gained from $1300 with the haltech or greddy piggy back ecu. There limitation is that they're really only suitable for mild modifications.

If your spending the full $5000 for the motec m400 (or $3000 for the efi) you can really go to town on the engine. Agressive cams, stroked/destroked/bored engine, Supercharger, turbocharger basically whatever you like.

With the right mods a naturally aspirated k24 can make in excess of 165-175kw atw, you'll just need to spend upwards of $3000 on a decent ecu to get it there (after you've done all of the engine work).

[Euro08Jaz]

just quickly whilst were on the topic of ecu's say i was after the comptech sc kit how would i be able to tune my ecu to run with that including header and exhaust modifications? i understand no reflash is available for 07 euro and i dont think an 06 tsx ecu would be interchangeable with the euro.

[EUR003act]

i havent had a chance to read all your replies properly... i will when i have some spare time... but until i see a euro with an aftermarket ecu that still has full functioning dash, air con, and cruise control... im not going aftermarket... i didnt buy a luxury car with all those features for nothing...

as for piggy back ecus... the master ecu will relearn them, and they cant adjust things like a/f ratio in open loop mode and VTC... (where all my power would be...)

yes i know id get more power with a tuned ecu... but until there is a viable option out there for the euro, im not gonna go down that road...

in saying that, the only thing i can see doing what i want would be piggy back K20 ecu running K-pro... but that gets expensive and still has alot of experimenting to be done.... before people start saying "you cant do this" "you should do this" i think id like to wait and see what this build gets me... this is all unwalked ground in the world of euros... and from what ive seen of the stock ecu so far, damn theyre good!

[Euro08Jaz]

true at the end of the days you've been getting mad results with the stock ecu, im sure something will eventually come out no point losing features that we paid for.