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					  Originally Posted by  EUR003act
					 
				 
				dont forget you cant just k-pro a Euro ECU... you need to run piggy back a K20 ecu and then K-pro that... starts to become quiet expensive... 
 
im only fairly new to the engine modding scene, but ive done ALOT of reading on US forums... and the majority of N/A engines making big numbers use the K24 block with a K20 head...    i think thats the way to go...
  
but definately - EG5s K24A3 is a marvel! kudos to him    
			
		 
	 
 k24 head is becoming a popular choice as well 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Benson
					 
				 
				k24 head is becoming a popular choice as well   
			
		 
	 
 yep, especially the '06+ TSX head with 1mm oversize valves... porters tend to prefer the K24 heads aswell because they have more meat to work with...
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Good results Benson, having a closer look at the dyno figures the torque does fall away given its capacity, but apart from cam timing, alot of fuel has been pulled out looking at the AFR's, not just cam timing changed, correct?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							yeh a/f ratio was slightly fixed
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  dsp26
					 
				 
				anyone else? does anyone have sheets with the torque curve... i actually wanna see the 'powerband'... i have less than 1500rpm and 1500rpm is supposed to be like the average?? with some exceptional tunes having around a 3000rpm powerband of peak torque 
			
		 
	 
 I suppose it depends what you classify the powerband to be. Some say it's the rpm range from peak torque to peak power, others say it's rpm range where the torque is above 95% of the peak torque. I usually use the latter of the two.  
 
And I agree, the shape of the torque curve is what I look at when I see a dyno printout. The peak power figure is almost meaningless since it's going to vary a fair bit depending on the dyno, temperature, etc, etc On top of that unless you have super close gear ratios to keep your rpm at peak power constantly the car really wont be that quick. You want an engine with a broad torque curve matched to gear ratios which can make the most of that torque. 
 
Discuss.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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							Is it really worth the chat given the differences between dyno's and days, would be nice if all engines turned up on the same day, same dyno, that way we could all compare apples with apples! Not look at loaded figures. 
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  ZeForce
					 
				 
				I suppose it depends what you classify the powerband to be. Some say it's the rpm range from peak torque to peak power, others say it's rpm range where the torque is above 95% of the peak torque. I usually use the latter of the two.  
 
And I agree, the shape of the torque curve is what I look at when I see a dyno printout . The peak power figure is almost meaningless since it's going to vary a fair bit depending on the dyno, temperature, etc, etc On top of that unless you have super close gear ratios to keep your rpm at peak power constantly the car really wont be that quick. You want an engine with a broad torque curve matched to gear ratios which can make the most of that torque. 
 
Discuss. 
			
		 
	 
 exactly what i'm after... 
 
for everyone elses references who are unfamiliar with powerband...: 
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/di...&TopicID=19852
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
		        		
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Slow96GSR
					
				 
				If 1 person has had bad luck with a product don’t condemn it until you yourself have tested it. Now if 10 pros have tried it and it sucked then I would trust their opinion. 
			
		 
	 
  
				
                                        
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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 Ok, I updated the postes with attachments as they seemed to disapear. 
Anyway, the power & torque is shown.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  TODA AU
					 
				 
				TODA / M-Factory NSW Super Sprint EG6 
 
Engine - Sleeved B18C2 + Ported B16A head  
Displacement - 1979cc 
Bore -85.00mm 
Stroke - 87.20mm 
CR -Secret Squirell 
Camshafts - TODA Racing 
Camgear Settings - Secret Squirell 
Gearbox - EK4 VtiR + final drive & ITR LSD 
I/H/E - Mugen Air Box, SPL Air pipe, TODA carbon surge tank, TODA 50mm quad throttles, TODA headers + 60mm cat back 
ECU - HONDATA S300
  
Dyno run in 4th  
			
		 
	 
 Wow, nice power and mods. There alot of money in this motor...  
  
Any future plans for it or is this it for the power size of things... 
  
No wonder it pass me so easily at Oran park  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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