Best to go with the Spring Shock combo first then. As i said if you could afford it I would probebly recommend Spoon Straights w/ Koni Yellow. If not Koni's then KYB AGX. Unless your worried about comfort and in that case get progressives .
Skunk2 shocks have been known to leak and not have very good life, particularly when the ride height is significantly lowered.
There are many factors to consider when buying suspension to help you decide which setup best suits your needs and budget.
Main Considerations When Buying Suspension:
- Costs
- Ride Height Adjustability
- Damper Adjustability
- Spring Rate
- Ride Comfort, Handling or "Best Balance"?
If you are not going to track your car and don't have any real interest in racing, then a spring shock combo will more than suffice. Depending on your ride comfort and handling demands is where you meet the two to find a set-up that is best suited to your needs.
Firstly;
Progressive Springs: Spring Rate ("Stiffness") increase as compression increases in order to give a "better" balance between handling and comfort.
Linear Springs: Spring Rate is "linear" and does not change regardless of preload. Good for steering response and sharp cornering.
Ride Height
Be careful when choosing springs as the springs will be the main factor in deciding ride height, you also have to consider than some shocks come with lower spring perches than OEM thus even if you install the shocks with STOCK springs the ride height will be changed.
Spring Rate
Depending how stiff you like your car and your comfort/handling needs will determine the spring rate...unfortunately if you are a one to choose comfort over performance...then spring rates don't differ to much and aren't very customizable when it comes to Progressive Springs. Progressive springs will also increase the life of your dampers.
Brand/Recommendations
When it comes to suspension it is important to ensure it is high quality. As the last thing you want is to rebuild them down the track or have to purchase replacements due to premature wear or faulty workmanship. I would recommend buying Japanese/European usually you couldn’t go wrong. (Koni, KYB, Bilstein, Eibach).
I personally have Spoon Springs / KYB AGX Shock combo...Brand new from a local dealer you will pay around $1200 for both...which is expensive for a spring shock combo...but I chose the set for the adjustability of the KYB Shocks and the Spoon Springs currently (according to my research and others) have the highest spring rates of the progressive springs available today. My ride does get bumpy when the dampers are brought up to 3-4 but for comfort when on 1 all round the comfort is stiffer than OEM but still has an OEM Feel
Also if your looking to reduce body roll a Whiteline or similar rear sway bar and reinforcement kit would dramatically reduce body roll and ensure that your ride comfort is kept at an acceptable level for the street. Easily the best value for money suspension modifications for Honda's and other vehicles alike.
Then there is the option of Adjustable Spring Perch coilovers...remember MOST suspension setup's on HONDA's are COILOVERS. Easy way to tell is if the spring and damper combo can be removed as one. The slang term often used on forums "coilovers" refers to a specifically engineered spring/shock combo that has an adjustable spring perch. (For ride height/preload adjustability).
If you have the money and want the greatest handling benefits these are the way to go however they will cost much more than a good set of springs/dampers (equal quality) and I recommend staying away from Taiwanese made coilover setups such as D2 etc.
Recommendations: KYB AGX / Koni Yellow / Eibach
KYB and Koni are fairly readily available from local stockists and traders on this forum.
P.S: I would also recommend to stay away from the "Ground Control" kits as most sports shocks are not made for a linear and preloaded spring and will cause premature wear to your shocks...although they are an attractive purchase...not something good in the long run.
That was longer than expected... -_-
Dude, after reading a fair few of the posts you've made.
You really don't receive enough credit from people.
Fantastic information!
P.S: I would also recommend to stay away from the "Ground Control" kits as most sports shocks are not made for a linear and preloaded spring and will cause premature wear to your shocks...although they are an attractive purchase...not something good in the long run.
The only form of "preloading" you can do with the Ground Control kit is in order to keep the spring captive much like a stock spring. Once the weight of the car comes down, the final length of the spring will be the same regardless of where you place the spring perch.
Dude, after reading a fair few of the posts you've made.
You really don't receive enough credit from people.
Fantastic information!
Thank-You.
I'm not in it 4DCRDT im in it 4DLULZ...haha...seriously though I just share knowledge that i beleive will help out either the uninformed or misinformed
Originally Posted by string
The only form of "preloading" you can do with the Ground Control kit is in order to keep the spring captive much like a stock spring. Once the weight of the car comes down, the final length of the spring will be the same regardless of where you place the spring perch.
Kept to PM. Prefer not to flood. Edited Original Post.
have it lower then, if its something for street and looks then by all means
dont expect to think ull hug corners on rails
good shocks and springs is a start
camber kit and swaybar is the difference
Swaybar yes but unless your installing a camber kit for a detailed wheel alignment...(presuming your just installing it to remove negative camber) it would negatively effect handling and cornering grip but improve straight line grip.
Honestly, you would be better off waiting, saving and getting the best your money and your financial situation will allow. If you just purchase springs you will regret it later. I would look on American Ebay and see if anything pops up. If your willing to save for a while I would recommend the Buddy Club N+ if not a Ground Control/Spoon Spring combo with KYB AGX or Koni's (again if your finances allow).
KYB AGX + Spoon Springs (Exact drop you wanted) New <$1200
Koni + Spoon Prog. Springs (Unsure of Drop) New >$1400++
Unsure of Spoon Straight/Ground Control prices considering the AU$ is r00ted at the minute you would be best to probebly buy locally.
I was thinking of selling my combo in order to purchase a set of FIGHTEX coilovers...but I decided to buy wheels instead...however if your willing to wait we may be able to arrange something. Pretty sure modification would be required to fit DC2 suspension into an EK...would have to ask around.
Swaybar yes but unless your installing a camber kit for a detailed wheel alignment...(presuming your just installing it to remove negative camber) it would negatively effect handling and cornering grip but improve straight line grip.
Honestly, you would be better off waiting, saving and getting the best your money and your financial situation will allow. If you just purchase springs you will regret it later. I would look on American Ebay and see if anything pops up. If your willing to save for a while I would recommend the Buddy Club N+ if not a Ground Control/Spoon Spring combo with KYB AGX or Koni's (again if your finances allow).
KYB AGX + Spoon Springs (Exact drop you wanted) New <$1200
Koni + Spoon Prog. Springs (Unsure of Drop) New >$1400++
Unsure of Spoon Straight/Ground Control prices considering the AU$ is r00ted at the minute you would be best to probebly buy locally.
I was thinking of selling my combo in order to purchase a set of FIGHTEX coilovers...but I decided to buy wheels instead...however if your willing to wait we may be able to arrange something. Pretty sure modification would be required to fit DC2 suspension into an EK...would have to ask around.
u think just bc u drop the car u have camber for cornering?
camber kit is available bc honda have crap camber tops that dont have camber adjustment.
getting a good alignment on shocks and springs would be as good if not better then coils.
EDIT: who would pay for a camber kit to remove negative camber on a honda?
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