[cl9] extractors question

[CL9R]

Is Feels header good for cl9??

[Chris_F]

its the same as maxim works (made by maxim works) and is definitely one of the best on the market

[aaronng]

unless on the CL7 the TODA/Maxim headers sit lower under the subframe?

Get under your car to measure!

[snYpz]

Is Feels header good for cl9??

Yeh maxim = feels. Thought you had maxim already lol...so it must be good!

[kitbkk]

My local shop has installed 2 J's CL7 header on 2 CL9s. It is not really a direct fit and it took them 3 hrs banging on the subframe to get it fit. Just a heads up for what you should be expecting to install the J's header on a CL9. Good luck and please post a review on it.

Could it be because the J's Racing is once piece header and its a bit hard to find the right angle to fit it in?
It happened to me as well when we were fitting the Toda header to my car. Even the oil filter had to be removed to made it easier to fit in the right angle.

[snYpz]

Could it be because the J's Racing is once piece header and its a bit hard to find the right angle to fit it in?
It happened to me as well when we were fitting the Toda header to my car. Even the oil filter had to be removed to made it easier to fit in the right angle.

Kitbkk, just wondering, did you notice much improvement with the toda over your topspeed headers?

I have the topspeed atm and might go with toda sometime next year. I heard that theres the hissing sound, is it annoying?

[CL9R]

I am using feels. just wanna know if it good compair to others like toda
does other header like toda have that air sucking sound when reving?

[kitbkk]

Kitbkk, just wondering, did you notice much improvement with the toda over your topspeed headers?

I have the topspeed atm and might go with toda sometime next year. I heard that theres the hissing sound, is it annoying?

yep! The gain was significant! How can I put it.. Even though I have heavy rims about 12kg per corner, Toda header alone can improve all rev range heaps over top speed or dc sports. The gain from toda header alone, IMO, is even greater than top speed + high flow cat.. definitely worth how much you spent
hissing wise, if your using top speed header, the hissing from toda is even louder...but in more aggressive way. you do not notice it at idle but WOT.

[Chris_F]

I am using feels. just wanna know if it good compair to others like toda
does other header like toda have that air sucking sound when reving?

I would say the attention to detail and build quality of the maxim works header is better than the toda. When you see them both off the car the toda looks like a piece of machinery but the maxim works looks likes a piece of art (just my opionion).

Performance wise, they're probably very close, but have never seen a back to back dyno. I do know that the maxim works are designed with perfectly equal length runners. Each Y joins is also hand machined at the join to give a knife-edge like merge between the runners. The reccomended retail price for the maxim works a few years ago was 147,000 yen. So today (with the current exchange rate) both the Toda and Maxim works will easily set you back more than $3k shipped. For that money, neither of them are worth the money in my opinion... Hopefully the Australian dollar can recover.

For reference:

The maxim works, the primary runners are 45mm, secondary are 48.6mm then come together at a 54mm collector. The toda has 45mm primaries and 50mm secondary runners. So the piping size is very similar, but they have a very different design so you'd need to do a back to back dyno to gauge any performance differences.

toda has the hissing sound aswell from what I've heard. It's from the flex pipes and is particularly loud on the maxim works beause there are 4 flex pipes. Personlaly I think the hiss sounds good. At high rpm it's like a swarm of angry bees

[snYpz]

yep! The gain was significant! How can I put it.. Even though I have heavy rims about 12kg per corner, Toda header alone can improve all rev range heaps over top speed or dc sports. The gain from toda header alone, IMO, is even greater than top speed + high flow cat.. definitely worth how much you spent
hissing wise, if your using top speed header, the hissing from toda is even louder...but in more aggressive way. you do not notice it at idle but WOT.

thanks kit. Man i dont mind spending the money for the toda at all. My only concern is the sound! IMO, the euro is a luxury-ish car so should be stealthy ...if there wasnt that excessive hissing, i would be all over toda for sure!!

btw, i thought toda came with the cat as well?

[CL9R]

I would say the attention to detail and build quality of the maxim works header is better than the toda. When you see them both off the car the toda looks like a piece of machinery but the maxim works looks likes a piece of art (just my opionion).

Performance wise, they're probably very close, but have never seen a back to back dyno. I do know that the maxim works are designed with perfectly equal length runners. Each Y joins is also hand machined at the join to give a knife-edge like merge between the runners. The reccomended retail price for the maxim works a few years ago was 147,000 yen. So today (with the current exchange rate) both the Toda and Maxim works will easily set you back more than $3k shipped. For that money, neither of them are worth the money in my opinion... Hopefully the Australian dollar can recover.

For reference:

The maxim works, the primary runners are 45mm, secondary are 48.6mm then come together at a 54mm collector. The toda has 45mm primaries and 50mm secondary runners. So the piping size is very similar, but they have a very different design so you'd need to do a back to back dyno to gauge any performance differences.

toda has the hissing sound aswell from what I've heard. It's from the flex pipes and is particularly loud on the maxim works beause there are 4 flex pipes. Personlaly I think the hiss sounds good. At high rpm it's like a swarm of angry bees

OMG!!!did u go to school for dat??? thankx man...lol

[kitbkk]

thanks kit. Man i dont mind spending the money for the toda at all. My only concern is the sound! IMO, the euro is a luxury-ish car so should be stealthy ...if there wasnt that excessive hissing, i would be all over toda for sure!!

btw, i thought toda came with the cat as well?

It comes with a testpipe