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							I just recently got a honda integra vtir 99. And its coming to a point that I need to change the oil I want to change it at 113,000 km. I want a bit of performance and fuel economy put together what oil is best? maybe something in between? Not to sure about the thickness of the oils.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  ekvtir90
					 
				 
				I just recently got a honda integra vtir 99. And its coming to a point that I need to change the oil I want to change it at 113,000 km. I want a bit of performance and fuel economy put together what oil is best? maybe something in between? Not to sure about the thickness of the oils. 
			
		 
	 
 If you want cheap mineral oil then, Honda FEO 10W-30, orrrrrr... for Synthetic, Castrol Edge 5W-30 or 0W-40. Probs the best cheaper synthetic oil. ELF makes a good 5W-30 too.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							im using castrol edge 5w-30 atm  
i rarely even drive the thing these days 
will probably jus go back to honda feo in 5 months (since i probably not even make 5000kms) LOL
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							i gave this motul racing oil a go coz i got recommended n was waaay better than honda n castrol edge imo but since its $100 a pop plus $30 for engine flush (reccomended)  dnt think i'll b usin it every time i do an oil change... bloody great oil tho, noticed the difference immedialtely, even on idle, engine a lot quiter n smoother.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  Tegzieboi_BAR
					 
				 
				i gave this motul racing oil a go coz i got recommended n was waaay better than honda n castrol edge imo but since its $100 a pop plus $30 for engine flush (reccomended)  dnt think i'll b usin it every time i do an oil change... bloody great oil tho, noticed the difference immedialtely, even on idle, engine a lot quiter n smoother. 
			
		 
	 
 If you had tried Motul's $65 8100 5w-40 engine oil without an engine flush, you would have noticed the smoothness immediately as well.  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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							Mr Spoon says that engine flush stuff is a no no. Arronng might want to elaborate. I would like to know your views on this, Arron?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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					  Originally Posted by  VTECMACHINE
					 
				 
				Mr Spoon says that engine flush stuff is a no no. Arronng might want to elaborate. I would like to know your views on this, Arron? 
			
		 
	 
 I hate engine flush. Engine flush is basically thin oil the consistency of diesel which you then run your engine on for a few minutes. I have a policy of nothing thinner than 0w-30 in my engine, so if anyone approaches my car with an engine flush, I'll use it to give them a good bowel cleansing. 
 
Even if you had good luck that there were no carbon debris that jammed the gap between the bearing journals (like what Mr. Ichishima (Spoon) said could happen), you would still have accelerated wear on the journals in that few minutes of running on super thin oil.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  aaronng
					 
				 
				I hate engine flush. Engine flush is basically thin oil the consistency of diesel which you then run your engine on for a few minutes. I have a policy of nothing thinner than 0w-30 in my engine, so if anyone approaches my car with an engine flush, I'll use it to give them a good bowel cleansing. 
 
Even if you had good luck that there were no carbon debris that jammed the gap between the bearing journals (like what Mr. Ichishima (Spoon) said could happen), you would still have accelerated wear on the journals in that few minutes of running on super thin oil. 
			
		 
	 
 Agreed. Would you use 10w40 in your car as Royal Purple have limited viscosities available in Aus.? (5w30 or 10w40). I am running 5w30 atm. 
 
In reference to engine flushing...why not just use a releatively cheap oil (possibly OEM) with high detergent levels and run ethanol for about 150-200km's then flush and replace again(both times changing oil filter)...I don't see an engine flush doing much more than that...also engine flushes are also not recommended as they don't comply with the standards of abrasiveness on OEM Seals... 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Tegzieboi_BAR
					 
				 
				i gave this motul racing oil a go coz i got recommended n was waaay better than honda n castrol edge imo but since its $100 a pop plus $30 for engine flush (reccomended)  dnt think i'll b usin it every time i do an oil change... bloody great oil tho, noticed the difference immedialtely, even on idle, engine a lot quiter n smoother. 
			
		 
	 
 Motul @ $100? I would buy Royal Purple @ $80...I noticed more than an noticable sound differance, smoothness, response and fuel efficiency  (about 20-30km's per tank consistantly if not more and I just recently had my engine rebuilt) RP-FTW...and trust me I don't usually support american produce however they definantly have a good thing going there. Besides...its actually PURPLE...'sif you wouldn't want it lol.   
 
Previous Products Used for Reference... 
Motul 300V Series 
Fuchs Semi-Synthetic/Full-Synthetic 
Motul 8100 Synethic and 4100 Semi-Synthetic 
Mobil Gold 
Honda OEM. 
 
I have used all of them and believe royal purple is the noticably better choice. I also think unless your going to spend the big bucks such as Royal Purple or Motul 300V; Honda OEM would probebly be the wisest choice.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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					  Originally Posted by  Sp00ny
					 
				 
				Agreed. Would you use 10w40 in your car as Royal Purple have limited viscosities available in Aus.? (5w30 or 10w40). I am running 5w30 atm. 
			
		 
	 
 I would use anything between 0w-30 to 10w-40. You'll be alright for sure. 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					  Originally Posted by  Sp00ny
					 
				 
				I have used all of them and believe royal purple is the noticably better choice. I also think unless your going to spend the big bucks such as Royal Purple or Motul 300V; Honda OEM would probebly be the wisest choice. 
			
		 
	 
 I reckon the mid-range oils are still pretty good. Motul 8100 for $65 and 20% sale is good value, and so is Castrol Edge 0w-40 with 20% off. Edge 5w-30 is ok as well, but the only time I would buy that is when it is on promo for $30 for 5L. Honda FEO is good for a daily driver which has regular oil changes, but if you like pushing your car a little bit hard, there is nothing wrong with the mid range oils. I don't really agree with a street car needing 300V unless your wallet is too heavy for your pocket.  
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
                                       
                                 
				
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					  Originally Posted by  chargeR
					 
				 
				Honda FEO.  If you are not happy with oil consumption with FEO go up to a 10W-40 semi-synthetic and see if it improves. 
			
		 
	 
 Any other oils rather than OEM, i'm not stating that i dont want to use OEM just would like to know if theres other options for a motor over 200k's?
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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							Thanks for the elaboration Arron. Mr Spoon is cool, I had a D&M with him about Honda's when he was in Aus, and he said that the AUDM DC5R is a secutaries car, and that DC2R > DC5R. What a champ   
 
Spoony, I agree with you. I have tried a bunch of different oil, and different viscosities. For me Royal Purple has by far been the best. I trust it with my life, and my engines life (Same thing I guess)... However, like all 10W-40's I find them a tad too thick. But I feel it's safer tracking with 10W-40 in the hotter months. 
 
FOB Squad, for engine over 200K km's, use a thicker oil, like a 10W-40. IMO Honda Feo (which is 10W-30) could be a bit too thin.
						 
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
			
			
		 
	 
		
	 
 
 
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