Racing Seats

[aaronng]

I have installed a bucket seat on my EURO and the dealer said all airbags will not working. the airbag lights. The symbol is an airbag depolyed with a people sit on.

Thanks for the confirmation. So the whole airbag system is disabled unless you do the resistor trick.

[Chris_F]

^ that's what the guys in the states have been saying aswell

im sure if you remove an airbag the SRS faulty light will come on to say that the system has a fault... and yes a resistor should fix that...

but theres no way honda would design a safety system like that that if in an accident one of the airbag lines was severed that the other 7 would not deploy... that would be extremely stupid...

In some cases,airbags going off can do more damage to you than the actual accident. When airbags were first used in seats I remember reading that they killed a few crash test dummies by deploying into them.

If there's a major fault in the system (like a couple of airbags missing) it's not unreasonable to think that honda designed the whole system to stop deploying airbags. That's why Honda has sensors in the seats, the side airbags can do a lot of damage if they fire into your rib cage.

[Accord Basic]

the other question is the seat belt tensioner. will it switched off as well if any of airbag removed and the sigle lights on? please advise. I just used the bucket seat on the event day and very rare to use on road (to & from work and track). ATM, I installed back the stock seat for Christmas out going (many road block & cops). I have read the service manual, a 2 ohm resistor should close a loop. But I don't think it is a good idea bcos, if the sys think is there but actually is not. I think better turn it off and tape/seal all plugs in case water damage. am I correct. please advise if I am wrong.

[aaronng]

I'd say put the seat on only for track. Use the stock seats for day to day.

[EUR003act]

^ that's what the guys in the states have been saying aswell



In some cases,airbags going off can do more damage to you than the actual accident. When airbags were first used in seats I remember reading that they killed a few crash test dummies by deploying into them.

If there's a major fault in the system (like a couple of airbags missing) it's not unreasonable to think that honda designed the whole system to stop deploying airbags. That's why Honda has sensors in the seats, the side airbags can do a lot of damage if they fire into your rib cage.

as much as eveyone is saying this... i cant see why anyone would design a system so easy to fall over... itd be like having brakes, that if one rotor is removed, the other three dont function...

im not an engineer or anything, but i cant see the whole system not working...

yes the fault light will come on - because removing an airbag is a big issue as far as the SRS computer is concerned... and yes im sure honda says the system wont work, theyre not exactly going to tell you itll be fine by removing one airbag...

i know im sounding stubborn, everything has fail safes these days, and i cant see honda doing something stupid like that...

if someone wants to sponsor me, ill happily buy an SRS computer / airbags / sensors, and test my theory

[Chris_F]

^ it definitely seems illogical on one level. But consider that misfiring airbags can be extremely dangerous. The safeguard could be that none of the airbags fire if the system is damaged.

[EUR003act]

^ it definitely seems illogical on one level. But consider that misfiring airbags can be extremely dangerous. The safeguard could be that none of the airbags fire if the system is damaged.

but disconnecting an airbag wouldnt cause a detonation... they require voltage to fire... and considering the front / curtain / side airbags are all on different firing lines, disconnecting a side shouldnt affect a front...

lol but neither of us will ever know... maybe someone call mythbusters?

[Chris_F]

lol good idea

[tron07]

as much as eveyone is saying this... i cant see why anyone would design a system so easy to fall over... itd be like having brakes, that if one rotor is removed, the other three dont function...

im not an engineer or anything, but i cant see the whole system not working...

yes the fault light will come on - because removing an airbag is a big issue as far as the SRS computer is concerned... and yes im sure honda says the system wont work, theyre not exactly going to tell you itll be fine by removing one airbag...

i know im sounding stubborn, everything has fail safes these days, and i cant see honda doing something stupid like that...

if someone wants to sponsor me, ill happily buy an SRS computer / airbags / sensors, and test my theory

I agree with you... the airbag trigger mechanism is not super complex with so many if and as....

I believe its just a simple systam and that the front bags will trigger even there is no side airbags. There fail save are there so that the bags wouldnt fire off if there is a short circuit or the circuit is not complete. In case of the side airbag, the failsafe is there so that if someone is in the way (leaning on it) it wouldnt fire else it could cause more damage to that person the the crash.

Even so, I wouldnt advise anyone to play with the airbag system or perform any funny mods to it.

[Kason]

what's the resistor trick for the airbag? also where can you get seat rails our euro, also just wondering if euroR CL7 shares the same railing?

[hisoka]

what's the resistor trick for the airbag? also where can you get seat rails our euro, also just wondering if euroR CL7 shares the same railing?

yes shares the same railings, but seats are recaros with no airbags

[Kason]

yes shares the same railings, but seats are recaros with no airbags

i'm planning to fit the bride zeta II bucket seats, where can i get rails for it for it to fit in my euro? also i need to get around that airbag thing?

anyone know what's that resistor trick? can someone explain it?